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  • #16
    Re: Move Forbidden Palace

    Originally posted by Indignator
    Players should be able to move the Forbidden Palace like the normal Palace. What was an optimal place for a second capital in mid-game, isn't so by late game.
    hi ,

    the best thing would be to put a forbidden palace as a great wonder , and small "local" governments , like a state capital "palace" , .....one for every 10 city's , and at least 20 squares from the capital and so on , ...

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    • #17
      about slave emancipation:

      Instead of just having it 'happen' in Modern era, have instead an 'emancipation act' as a small wonder that is REQUIRED for Women's Suffrage and other civil-rights based wonders.

      When researched, all slave workers have a 33/33/33 chance of joining the nearest city, returning to their home civ (assuming that that civ has also researched the emancipation act), or becoming barbarian class riflemen.

      Aside from allowing future wonders, the emancipation act will cause a short-term unhappiness in your empire (say, the same as a revolution), but a long-term happiness and culture bonus.

      Thus, if you have a lot of slaves in your empire, and a lot of land to build on, you might just skip it completly and accept the wonder losses.

      As for religion:

      I do hope Firaxis doesn't include this. Theres too much of a risk for problems. If they were all totally equal (and not offensive, i.e. Islamic = military bonuses, Judaism = expansionistic bonuses) and all religions were represented, MAYBE. But lets face it, if you're playing a game with a bunch of low-brow americans, and you set your civ's religion as islamic, you know what's going to happen to you. Try playing AoE II online, and picking Saracens as your civ. Watch what names you're called.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by UberKruX


        WRONG. just because america is against slavery doesnt mean other nations are. America was built on a lot of work from slaves, everyone forgets that one.

        America was given a huge base for expansion / production / agriculture based on SLAVE LABOR. when other countries of the world try to do the same, we call it a human rights violoation and fly half way around the world to bomb the huts and farms the slaves built.

        hypocrites.
        One tends to forget that the American South was the primary benefitter of slavery, most other states had outlawed the in the few years after revolution. Also, it was the South that was torched in the American Civil War. The South didn't recover for a century. Meanwhile, the rest of the country acheived prosperity thanks to natural-born citizens and willing immigrants. (An idea I wish existed in Civ3). To call a nation hypocritical presupposes the mores of one's time should have been obvious to the ancients, i.e. the Catholic Church is hypocritical because they imprisoned Galileo for heresy, but now they support scientific experimentations and free thought.

        Incidentally, I would like to see a nation that did not acheive power without some form of slavery, whether serfdom in Russia and Eastern and Central Europe, Slavery in the Middle East (Janissaries and the like), and yes, even all those slaves shipped to the West Indies and even more recently, the merciless slavery of the Congo and the East Indians.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Mikhail
          about slave emancipation:

          But lets face it, if you're playing a game with a bunch of low-brow americans, and you set your civ's religion as islamic, you know what's going to happen to you. Choose the Saracens in AoEII. See what names you're called.
          As a liberal, open minded, tolerant American citizen, thank you for the wonderful nick-name for all of us. We were just trying to find a way to stereotype us all, and you just gave us a great idea. We shall be sure to contact you and your brilliant, constantly intuitive European comrades in the future.
          Choose to travel as an American, see what names you're called.

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