Let's help Firaxis with "mega-bank" and other ideas

[Panag]

hi ,

Firaxis , we got a library , and a university , where is the school , ...and what happens to our city's when fire break's out , .....there should be a central bank after you build 5 banks , Wall street should be a big wonder , with more intrest to earn , to lets say max 100 gold , ....on top of the central bank , ...a supermarket , it should make one unhappy person content , ....

have a nice day

[Panag]

hi ,

more civ specific Qualities , .....

have a nice day

[Gen.Dragolen]

Recreating the wheel

Well this is amusing: all of these things were present in CPT2. Now since stealing from one is plagerism, stealing from 2 or 3, literary discernment, and stealing from many, masterful research, the simplest idea for making things a little more "exponential" would be to make workers able to improve existing mines and farms.

Just like railroads are improved roads, the coding to impliment an added improvement to a farm or mine should be fairly easy. So an improved mine or farm would add one more shield or food, and maybe an improved railroad (mag tubes?) could add one more commerce.

Now if only you could mate the detail in the MedMod for CTP 2 with the gameplay in Civ3, we'd be living like mice.

"... so what do you want to do tonight, Brain ? (Narf)"
" Same thing we do every night: TRY TO TAKE OVER THE WORLD!"

[Kuciwalker]

Put the stock market from Civ2 back in.

Add double irrigation (farms), put Supermarket from Civ2 back in, with the same effect as before.

Hospital or Sewer System, it doesn't really matter what you call it, is fine as it is.

A TV station would reduce war weariness?! [hint]Vietnam[/hint]

This wouldn't be an Industrial Age improvement, but they should add a "Nuclear Bunker" improvement that would lessen damage from a nuclear strike and would (possibly) ease war weariness. They'd have to make nukes, or at least ICBM's, a lot more powerful though.

[Lucilla]

I don't think that supermarkets / farmland would be very useful in Civ3. They were in Civ2, but in Civ3 I usually have already the problem that I produce more than enough food.

The other ideas are really good.

[Panag]

Originally posted by Lucilla
I don't think that supermarkets / farmland would be very useful in Civ3. They were in Civ2, but in Civ3 I usually have already the problem that I produce more than enough food.

The other ideas are really good.

hi ,

there should be supermarkets , it should make one citizen content ,......

have a nice day

[Stuie]

Originally posted by Harlan
Another idea to reduce late game tedium (Firaxis should be seizing onto any and every idea to reduce late game tedium):

An Empancipation / Civil Rights small wonder. When completed, all your captured Workers work just as fast as your home made ones. Suddenly half the late game Worker hassle.

I was thinking about something like this. Either add emancipation as a small wonder, or make a anti-slavery treaty that the UN can vote on. Thing is, there could be no more enslaving of foreign units, so they would have to either die or retreat when attacked.

Emancipation should give either a cultue or production boost (or both) to make up for the lost ability to slave workers.

As for the next step after bank, it should be the return of Stock Exchange or Mercantile Exchange. The existance of the Wall Street minor wonder does not preclude this. In the "real" world, we have Wall Street, and we also have exchanges in Philadelphia, Chicago, etc. etc.

Other late game ideas:
- Some sort of Economic victory condition would be welcome.
- More diplomacy options (perhaps enabled by building UN...) such as "Make peace with..." to stop a Civs war against your ally.
- More UN options. Vote to limit nuclear warheads; vote to limit pollution; vote to make certain units illegal. Breaking the treaties would result in ill will or open war from the other civs. Signatories to treaties would receive some bonus (happy citizens?)
- Canals!

I'm glad to see Firaxis is trying to relieve the Modern Age doldrums.

[Panag]

hi ,

Firaxis , one idea ,....please fix IFE , thank you in advance , ...its back

have a nice day

[Nikolai]

Sorry, panag, but what is IFE?

[Panag]

Originally posted by Nikolai
Sorry, panag, but what is IFE?

hi ,

Infinte Forest Explatation , ...

harvest forest , replant , reharvest , replant , and so on , but getting every time the shield bonus from it , ....

have a nice day / night

[Nikolai]

Well, haven't they fixed that in an earlier patch?

And yes, I have to get some sleep soon...

[Panag]

Originally posted by Nikolai
Well, haven't they fixed that in an earlier patch?

And yes, I have to get some sleep soon...

hi ,

it came back to haunt us , because we have been bad boys , ...........

have a nice night , .....

[wrylachlan]

Originally posted by LordAzreal
Quite a few ideas to throw around. How about improvements that actually improve the effectiveness of specialist citizens. They could be cheap as dirt to maintain.

The Tax Office could improve taxmen (for obvious efficiency reasons).

An entertainment centre/theatre could improve entertainers (obviously because it is a central location where people can watch entertainers perform).

And schools (as in public/private grade/high schools) could improve scientists (as they would be better educated having grown up going to a local school).

Add a new type of specialist (policeman) that reduces corruption/waste in the city, and add a Prison city improvement to increase its effect. The Alcatraz great wonder could then count as a prison in each city.

These are great ideas, and I have one more to add to this - "Manufacturers", a specialist that is worth 1 shield, and then, for symmetry reasons, change the manufacturing plant from a flat 50% increase to doubling the value of the "Manufacturer" specialists.

Apart from that, here are a few more ideas off the top of my head.

Definitely a modern coastal improvement that increases food further, cumulative with the harbour. Perhaps a "Fishery", or "Hatchery" or something. And another coastal improvement that could increase shield output (cumulative with the Offshore Platform anyway).

I disagree with this one. As bountiful as the sea is, we are still much more efficient at utilizing the land, so I think adding this much of a sea bonus would be too much.

Farmland and Supermarkets should also make a return. The extra food and population could then help make the specialists more significant (especially if the improvement that increases their effect has been built).

Farms yes!

An industrial/modern improved mine (mining complex maybe) that can only be built on hills/mountains, and possibly desert/tundra (grasslands/plains may have some small degree of mineral value for small scale mining, but large scale mining operations couldn't possibly be carried out in such areas). For the increased shields, you could need railroads on the square as well, and a "Rail Depot" Improvement (that will also increase commerce on railroad squares).

Superhighways should also make a return, increasing the commerce of road/railroad squares. Cumulative with the Rail Depot on railroads.

This I have to disagree with. I think that rr sprawl is already a problem, and adding more of a commerce bonus will only make it worse. I would like to see some mechanism that makes it advantageous for the player to only build rr's between cities, not all over the place. And with this you could add a RR Depot improvement that adds commerce if you have rr's between your cities, but not a per tile bonus, and no superhighways (unless it is a Superhighway city improvement that doesn't clutter up the map).

[kring]

Originally posted by panag


hi ,

Infinte Forest Explatation , ...

harvest forest , replant , reharvest , replant , and so on , but getting every time the shield bonus from it , ....

have a nice day / night

This was fixed in the 1.16f patch. Too many people bragged about doing it, so they fixed it.

This is copied from the 1.16f patch Changes:

Changes v1.16f:

Shield bonus from clearing forest can only be received once per game.

[Panag]

Originally posted by kring


This was fixed in the 1.16f patch. Too many people bragged about doing it, so they fixed it.

This is copied from the 1.16f patch Changes:

hi ,

its back , ......... , .....unlimited , .......

have a nice day