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With 5/3/3 stats from the screenshot andmuch speculation over what they replace and how they replace it, I've decided to make a poll to see what most peaople think.
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21They are cavalry that comes with earlier tech14.29%3They are cavalry that does not need saltpeter.9.52%2Both of hte above19.05%4Both knights and cavalry that presumably comes with chivalry, same cost and resources as knights.4.76%1A truly unique unit: does not replace anything, between knights and cav, upgrades to cav14.29%3A knight that is unbalancingly strong0.00%0An upgrade on some new unit (dragoon) that comes in PtW in between cavalry and knights19.05%4The stats will be changed so it can be a reasonable UU for either knights or cavalry (such as being 4/3/3 or 7/3/3)14.29%3Spain will have a different UU, nothing firaxis has said is final.0.00%0Other4.76%1 -
oh yeah, and if you vote other please explain what you think it is -
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My guess is a version of a new unit. After all, they wouldn't unbalance the game so much as to have a 5.3.3 knight. Why in the world would they replace both knights and cavalry with them?
I suppose it's a possibility that the stats will be changed... but geeze, there are so many combos of numbers for 'unique units' that you can have before they're no longer... unique.Comment
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I think it's an upgrade of something between Knights and Cavalry. It's surely not an upgrade of Knights, for 5/3/3 instead of 4/3/2 is extremely unbalanced - beating Musketmen, easily beating Pikemen and running like a Firaxian followed by Apolytoners.Solver, WePlayCiv Co-Administrator
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Sounds like a knight with an extra attack and extra movement."What can you say about a society that says that God is dead and Elvis is alive?" Irv Kupcinet
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Pythagoras, don't you really think it's a tad too powerful?Solver, WePlayCiv Co-Administrator
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I think that the unit is an earlier, weaker version of Calvary. It makes sense to me. It would give the Spanish an advantage during the time that they historically were powerful. It would come after Chivalry but before Military Tradition (probably with gunpowder), giving the Spanish an advantage over the other Civs with Knight UUs . Conquistador will need saltpeter. This would make the Spanish a force to be reckoned with until Nationalism and Military Tradition, when the Spanish would be a bit weaker than the other Civs. This approximates the period of the rise and fall of the Spanish empire, and I think that it would be a good idea."The great rule of conduct for us in regard to foreign nations is to have with them as little political connection as possible... It is our true policy to steer clear of permanent alliances with any portion of the foreign world, so far as we are now at liberty to do it." George Washington- September 19, 1796Comment
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They're cavalry (straight from Firaxis). Their numbers aren't definite, so they'll change them eventually.Comment
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I also think I've seem such information, but I don't remember where I've got it from...
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In the chat, of course.
Jeff said they were "light cavalry", and when we asked if 'light cavalry' was a new unit, he said they were just cavalry. So that's pretty definitive.
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That kinda makes it look like it will be a weaker version of Cavalry that is available either through an earlier tech, or that requires less resources. Or both. Like nationalist said.If I'm posting here then Counterglow must be down.Comment
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Who knows, the numbers aren't definite, so we don't know yet. They may just be another 6.4.3 or 7.3.3 cavalry unit.
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As we now know, there's a Light Cavalry unit earlier in the Middle Ages.Solver, WePlayCiv Co-Administrator
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Eh? What's that?Originally posted by Solver
As we now know, there's a Light Cavalry unit earlier in the Middle Ages.
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