Civ Traits for PTW Civs

[Cesa]

Re: Civ Traits for PTW Civs

Originally posted by Hurrying Heinz
Here are the civ traits which I think will be associated with each of the new civs on PTW.

Vikings - Militaristic, Expansionist
The Vikings were known for their strong army and they were some of the worlds greatest explorers, eventually making Settlements in Iceland, the New World, and Russia. They also explored the Mediterranean and raided Visigoth camps in Iberia.

I'd say Militaristic, Commercial. The viking travels that are most (in)famous is when they raided and looted, but those travels were in reality quite few compared to all the travels for trading. And even though they traveled to many different places they didn't really settle that much, they pretty much traded and went back home

[Jethro83]

Originally posted by monkspider
Those are very good Lord Az, I think they are actually better than mine even.
The one thing I would tweak is give Incas industrious rather than religious simply because so many other civs already have the religious trait. Plus, the Inca built Macchu Pichu, a strong network of roads, etc. So I think Industrious would fit them very well.

Well now that I think of it, I'd agree about the Incas being Industrious. Before, I was considering them as Commercial, Industrious, but they did seem more scientific than commercial.

[Solver]

There are new traits in PtW, so this is a bit unprecise.

[Jay Bee]

Re: Civ Traits for PTW Civs

Originally posted by Hurrying Heinz
Here are the civ traits which I think will be associated with each of the new civs on PTW.

Vikings - Militaristic, Expansionist
They also explored the Mediterranean and raided Visigoth camps in Iberia.

When the Vikings raided Iberia the Visigoths had long been removed from power.

The only business that the Spanish did was war.

Although it's sentences like this what makes this forum so entertaining, I will always wonder where you guys get these ideas from.

[Cesa]

Originally posted by Solver
There are new traits in PtW, so this is a bit unprecise.

I didn't see any info on that. I think there's a chance this is the case, but we haven't seen any evidence have we?

[Mikhail]

Spanish: Religious, Expansionist

(Militaristic? Just because their guns and armor were extremely capable of killing Native Americans, hardly means they had a large or strong military. Militaristic is primarily for generating Great Leaders. How many great leaders were spawned by the colonization slaughter?)

Mongols: Militaristic, Expansionist

Gauls (btw, Gaul is a better choice than Celt. Including "Celts" would be like including a "European" or "Native American" Civ. 'Celt' is too vague.): Industrious, Religious

Arabs: Religious, Commercial (Oil: A cup of Arabian culture)

Ottomans: Militaristic, ??? (don't want to use religious a third time)

[monkspider]

Where did you hear this info Solver? It must have somehow slipped under my radar.

[Zoid]

Re: Civ Traits for PTW Civs

Originally posted by Hurrying Heinz

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Threadjacking and spamming are in fact two different things...

[Amadan]

As an outside possibility (boldly jumping into the fray): Each Civ could have three traits instead of two. That would bring the number of unique combinations from 15 to 20, without adding new traits (although that would be nice).

[Nostromo]

Originally posted by Amadan
As an outside possibility (boldly jumping into the fray): Each Civ could have three traits instead of two. That would bring the number of unique combinations from 15 to 20, without adding new traits (although that would be nice).

How would you balance such a civ with the old ones? Besides, no one would want to play a commercial, industrious and religious civ...

[punkbass2000]

Is that sarcasm?

[August Borms]

Originally posted by Mikhail
Ottomans: Militaristic, ??? (don't want to use religious a third time)

Ottomans: Militaristic, Militaristic

[Lawrence of Arabia]

New traits eh? We're onto you now Solver! Do you know any other unpublished knowledge of PTW?

[Jethro83]

Originally posted by Mikhail
Spanish: Religious, Expansionist

(Militaristic? Just because their guns and armor were extremely capable of killing Native Americans, hardly means they had a large or strong military. Militaristic is primarily for generating Great Leaders. How many great leaders were spawned by the colonization slaughter?)

Does the name Hernando Cortéz ring a bell? How about Francisco Pizarro? I'd say they do qualify as great leaders. BTW, Militaristic has nothing to do with the chances of a great leader appearing. It only means quick promotions and cheaper military buildings.

Ottomans: Militaristic, ??? (don't want to use religious a third time)

I wouldn't say that the Ottomons could be considered 'religious' at all. They do go down in history as devout muslims, but not devout enough to earn the Religious trait.

[Jethro83]

Originally posted by nostromo


How would you balance such a civ with the old ones? Besides, no one would want to play a commercial, industrious and religious civ...

Easy. Just add a third trait into each of the existing civs.

For example, the Romans could be Industrious as well as Militaristic/Commercial (think of the roads, bridges and aqueducts they were able to build ahead of their time). Germans could also be Industrious on top of their existing two traits (think of how quickly West Germany was able to reconstruct following the end of WWII).