Jeff Morris on Gamespy

[Jon Shafer]

Cut them some slack. At least a little, they're trying to help us out, which is much more than most companies do. They're releasing more patches than about the first 10 games you'll find out there combined. That and their patches are doing much more than any others. That and they're releasing a much more powerful editor, which, frankly, they really don't have to. Call it a marketing ploy, the fact remains that people who want to make custom scenarios can without getting the XP.

[DarthVeda]

By scenarios, I assume you mean "accelerated startup maps."

They don't deserve any slack in my book. Their marketing strategy has been nothing but insidious and underhanded, their product shoddy, and their promises surprisingly empty.

And what of all these patches? Well you can't very well sell an expansion if you loose your entire market base, now can you?

"Whenever you exploit someone, it never hurts to thank them. That way, it's easier to exploit them the next time."

[Jon Shafer]

The fact is, that they'll get an incredible amount of sales whether the hardcore fans are in love with their product or not. The fact that they're trying to improve upon their product beyond the point where it matters (in current sales) counts for something in my book. Do you really think them releasing patches for 8 months makes up for the sales they'll gain due to that from the XP? I suppose it's a possibility, but I doubt it. If you find the capitalistic world so corrupt, then you can scream at them all you want, but, if they're as bad as you say they are, they won't care anyways.

[MarkG]

Originally posted by Thrawn05
Mmm, so... they are making us their beta testers again?

some attitudes just never change...

[Immortal Wombat]

some attitudes just never change...

Like the earth goes round the sun. There's a stick-in-the-mud theory...

The free scenario editor sounds good though, beta or not. Regicide and capture-the-flag sound like they're jumping on the AoK bandwagon, but might be fun I suppose. Fun enough that someone made a "chess" mod for CtP.

[Locutus]

A chess mod?

About regicide and capture the flag: if Firaxis would give the fans a scripting language, they could add that themselves...

[Theseus]

I think that Firaxis is ahead of the curve (but not perfect) in learning to deal with the new paradigm of gaming... a free-wheeling interplay of releases, patches, forums, chats, mods, scenarios, etc. This while being required to meet the paramount demands of being associated with a much larger public company.

Well done.

[JtheJackal]

They gives us what we want and people still complain. Tsk Tsk.

[SpencerH]

It looks like the game is approaching what it should have been when it first came out.

[Panag]

Originally posted by SpencerH
It looks like the game is approaching what it should have been when it first came out.

hi ,

nope , its even going to go further , ......

have a nice day

[Panag]

Originally posted by Thrawn05



Mmm, so... they are making us their beta testers again?

hi ,

so what , .....its because the players keep asking and asking , .....

at least they give us something , ....other company's would not even think about it , ......

have a nice day

[moomin]

A scenario editor for MP only? Pray not.

[Jon Miller]

nope

scenario editor is coming out in june, months before MP does

it will be downloadable

probably a copy will come with PtW

so if you don't download it get it there

Jon Miller

[Mikhail]

I could really care less about what scenarios firaxis includes. Fan-made ones are invariably better.

Any world map they make will probably be poor when compared to Marla or KittenofChaos's (kitten's is better, btw. accurate resource placement)

Besides. I'd say 80% of everyone will buy the Expansion first and foremost for the civs. If I really cared about multiplayer, I wouldn't be a civ fan.

[aebbeka]

Finally! A good PBEM system! I can't wait!