No Incas?!

[bigvic]

Am I to understand that there will be no Incas? What a blank spot on the world map! Wish they would say something conclusive.

[Jon Shafer]

We'll find out soon. Hopefully.

I still find it hard to believe they included the Ottomans (Turks, really) and Arabs. True, they may not be the same, but there's a lot of real estate empty on the other side of the ocean...

[Cyclotron]

Of course there are Incas... but they're not in PTW. Actually, the Incas reserve a respectable position as one of the barbarian tribes in Civ3 original.

[Darkworld Ark]

Originally posted by cyclotron7
Of course there are Incas... but they're not in PTW. Actually, the Incas reserve a respectable position as one of the barbarian tribes in Civ3 original.

It seems like Firaxis took all the Civs it couldn't fit into the game & turned them into barbarian tribes.

[monkspider]

Incas will be in, more than likely.
As I have shown in my "why korea may not be included in the xp" thread, there is good evidence as to why Korea may not be in the XP, with little strong evidence that they will be.
There is one very strong piece of evidence for the Inca that we can't deny: If the Inca or Maya aren't included there wouldn't be a SINGLE american civ in the XP, and I just don't see that happening.

[monkspider]

Darn Double post!

[bigvic]

D@mnit that blows! Hell, the Incas were, in my opinion (and I've studied this way too much), bigger and more civilized than the Aztecs.. Don't get me wrong, I do like having Arabs and Ottomans, but only 3 American style civs?

NOT RIGHT

Anyway, if the game supports up to 31 civs, why only 8 anyway? Why not 15? Oh yeah, 7 more in PTW II, coming to a store near you next year for just 30$. Ah, capitalism....

[monkspider]

Don't worry Bigvic, I would give the Inca a 90% chance of being in the game.

[bigvic]

It really does seem to make sense. I hate lack of balance. I can't wait til we can play on a historical map w/ civs in proper places.


BTW, know I ain't supposed to do this, and speaking of possible lack of balance, but puleeeeze check out my mod on creation forum. Craving feedback, even if bad.

[civman2000]

I would bet anything the Incas are in and the koreans are not. With the recent updates, there is very little support for any argument saying korea is in, and by far the best choice to use instead is the incas.

[Jon Shafer]

The problem with saying "the Incans are in, the Koreans are out" is that there is evidence that the Koreans might be included, but there isn't a shred for the Incans. We'll find out though.

[monkspider]

There is a more than a shred Trippy, and I would say that it far outweights the evidence for the Koreans.
The simple fact that if the Incas aren't in, then there is not a single American civ in the XP. For purposes of balance amongst the culture groups, there *HAS* to be an American civ.

[Jon Shafer]

Ahhhhh, why do so many people call me Trippy!

That's still not evidence though. On a smaller scale, we could have said that they wouldn't have included the Turks, because of their proximity to Greece, Babylon, etc. After all, there were 6 civs included in Europe in the original release, but only 2 from America. I think that the civilopedia image of the Hwacha is much more conclusive than speculation, simply because all the civilopedia screenshot images have been UUs for other civs. Like I said though, we'll find out soon enough...

[monkspider]

Fair point, I suppose a case can be made for Korea. But as you said, we will see soon enough.

[Switch]

I'm sure Firaxis isn't THAT blind. They NEED a SA civ, as well as another African civ to fill up that big continent.

BTW, monkspider, are you actually socialist? (just out of curiosity, mind you. Feel free to not answer).