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    Why is there a dog there? How lame.

    It looks like a German Shepherd, too. My sister's Chihuahua would have made a better choice:

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    Yes, the dog is lame.
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    No, it's not. I love everything Firaxis does.
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    I don't care. The dog is not a factor.
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    By the way, I don't need a historical explanation about the Spanish bringings dogs to track down the Native Americans. I know all about that.
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    • #3
      To me the dog isn't really a factor in the "lameness" question on the Conquistadors as a UU.

      Though personally, I won't judge those sorts of things until we actually have PTW and have played it a bit. Right now we just don't have enough info to judge such things, imho.

      That said, I can hazard a guess at why they might have the dog there, and its not just for some attempt at historiocity. Its probably there as much for visual distinctiveness in the game as anything. Consider that with the addition of the UUs we now know of from PTW, there will be at least 8 (if not more) horse-mounted units. Horseman, Rider, Mounted Warrior, Knight, Cavalry, Cossack, and now Keshik and Conquistador. Thats a lot of units to have with such similar basic visual characteristics. They have to do something to make the new units stand out from all of the others.

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      • #4
        I think the conquistador looks more ridiculous than his dog
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        • #5
          Re: Spanish UU: Lame or Not?

          Originally posted by siredgar
          Why is there a dog there? How lame.

          It looks like a German Shepherd, too. My sister's Chihuahua would have made a better choice:

          http://www.barkbytes.com/history/chihua.htm
          my fiance has a chihuahua. that said, (since she is not here right now ) I will say that that is a retarted idea, to have a chihuahua as a hunting dog. Or is that too insensitive, to be huntin' injuns'?

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          • #6
            Getting warmed up for something siredgar?
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            • #7
              the UU of Spain civ must be the "tercio", of course.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by siredgar
                By the way, I don't need a historical explanation about the Spanish bringings dogs to track down the Native Americans. I know all about that.
                A point: not -all- native american: Spain gets more allies than enemies when arrived to America

                ...and... what about anothers? I think about americans & indian tribes...
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                • #9
                  Maybe the dog should be replaced by the smallpox virus
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                  • #10
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                    • #11
                      I can't believe people are ALREADY whining about the XP.

                      I don't really mind the conquistador looking ridiculous and being accompanied by a dog.

                      I don't care how the unit looks as long as it can fight like its supposed to.

                      Anyway, things aren't exactly set in concrete at this time. Who knows? Maybe somewhere down the track, Firaxis might decide to make changes.

                      Anyway, I'd probably mod the Conquistador to resemble the AOE2 Conquistador.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Locutus
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Assur
                          Maybe the dog should be replaced by the smallpox virus


                          It's sick, but it's funny.

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                          • #14
                            I found the musketeer was a lame UU (not a real French military specificity)
                            I find that the Conquistador is a lame UU : rather than taking the Tercio, which is unknown but proven to be very valuable for the Spanish military (so say the Spaniards at least), they took an expeditionary korps which isn't a unit as such : there were footsoldiers, cavaliers, and even cannoneers among the conquistadors.
                            That said, at least it will fight excessively well
                            (BTW, I don't think the dog is lame, it adds some variety)
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