First Screenshots: VIKINGS (probable), SPANISH, MONGOLS, Multiplayer

[kring]

Especially since that is one of the few advantages of an Expansionist civ, the goody hut bonus. It would also discourage building Scouts as well.

[asleepathewheel]

Originally posted by TechWins
I have a question, since there is a 'no goody huts' option does this mean that expansionists Civs have a different ability? Every expansionists Civ in the game that is playing under that rule will be under a huge disadvantage.

great point. This would make the expansionist trait irrelevant (other than starting with pottery). A scout would be useful, I suppose, in finding your enemy, but IMO, the only reason to use, is to get the goods. Maybe there is something else to Expansionists now, hope. hope that my irq's wouldn't lose one of their traits.

But I do like the option. Now you can play with raging hordes and no huts. In SP as it is today, if you have barbs, you have to have huts, unless using the editor. A nice option to remove some of the randomness of MP. An early settler would quite often end the game.

[TechWins]

Especially since that is one of the few advantages of an Expansionist civ, the goody hut bonus. It would also discourage building Scouts as well.

Actually that is the only advantage it has outside of being able to build scouts. But like you said this will discourage buidling Scouts as well. Hopefully Firaxis realized this and thought of a different ability for exapsionist Civs. If they did, though, what would the new ability be?

EDIT: one other advantage is getting the free tech but every CSA gets a free tech

[monolith94]

Isabella has poor skin complexion, crossed eyes, and ridiculous eyebrows...

Ghengee looks like what i would expect the barbarian leader to look like. You'd think that he'd dress a little bit better than his cohorts...

[Spiffor]

Is there a goody hut parameter when you start a new game (haven't played lately) ? I don't think so. Maybe it's just bundled with the Barbarians. But expansionist is the worst trait anyhow.

[asleepathewheel]

Originally posted by Spiffor
Is there a goody hut parameter when you start a new game (haven't played lately) ? I don't think so. Maybe it's just bundled with the Barbarians. But expansionist is the worst trait anyhow.

Its with the barbarian option. the top option, I can;t remember what its called, removes both barbs and huts. The second option, what used to be the first, is just huts (and hut triggered barbs0

[Inverse Icarus]

i also see a patrol like button in this shot:

http://apolyton.net/civ3/images/view.shtml?ptwscreenshots/Keshik-Screenshot.jpg

and whats the sword? attack to?

[siredgar]

I'm pretty disappointed they went for the hwacha ("firecart") as the UU for the Koreans. Although I believe it was featured in Age of Empires II's expansion pack, I think the kobukson ("turtleboat") which was also in that game would have been a better choice and much more interesting to play.

Anyhow, I had my doubts, but I pretty much knew the Koreans were going to be in the expansion pack.

As for the rest of the list, Monkspider, it looks like my prediction was right. What do I win???

The Spanish, the Vikings, and the Mongols were givens. I'm not surprised they added the Carthaginians and the Celts either. It looks like the remaining spots will be filled by the Incans and the Ethiopians (possibly the Arabs or the Turks instead though).

[civman2000]

Keshik speculation

My idea:

At 4/2/2, they are an incrdibly dominating replacement of horsemen in the ancient age, truly unbeatable. However, in the middle ages, the also replace the knoight so the is a minor disadvantage of 1 defense point to make up for the hugeness of the advantage

[ScreamingViking]

Hooray!! Though I dont see the UU being called a Berserk. If I recall correctly, a Berserk is a group of Berserkers, just as a Legion is a group of Legionaries. Therefore, 'Berserker' is the name that would remain consistant with the scheme used so far.

I like the the Spanish Conquistador and Isabella, but I would lose the dog. To busy.

Brennus and the Celts? Yeah, sure, why not?

Ghengis and the Mongols. Good but ugly. They need to start making the horseback units look disinct.

Koreans? With a wheelbarrow launcher? Hell, at least it's unique. Let's not go the way of the Aztecs and use ridiculously long city names, though. However, they might not be in the XP. My theory is that the ridiculous wheelbarrow launcher is part of the Feudal Japan scenario, not a new Korean civ.

Carthaginians. YES! Let's distinquish the elephant unit, though, or find another altogether.

That would leave Inca (for the Americas), and Ottomans/Turks (for the middle-east), maybe another.

To bad, I was really looking forward to the Australian, Bolivian, Canadian, Cuban, Dutch, Ecuadorian, Flemish, Gallic, Irish, Laplander, Malian, Newfoundlander, Qatarian, Rastafarian, Siberian, Teuton, Welsh, and Zairian civs. S***.

[DrFell]

Re: Keshik speculation

Originally posted by civman2000
My idea:

At 4/2/2, they are an incrdibly dominating replacement of horsemen in the ancient age, truly unbeatable. However, in the middle ages, the also replace the knoight so the is a minor disadvantage of 1 defense point to make up for the hugeness of the advantage

And/or, make them cost 40 shields so that although they might be great units, you can build less of them. I'd have liked to see perhaps a 3/1/3 unit though (to simulate the speed the Mongols conquered Asia).

[monkspider]

I totally agree with Kring that each civ deserves another leaderhead included in the XP. It seems unlikely that it will happen at this point, but we can always hope.
Egypt could get Ramses II, France could get Napoleon, Russia could get Vladimir Lenin, etc.
I really just want to see an animated Napoleon, darn it.

Although, on a bright note, with the addition of Isabella, my traditional vote for Elizabeth in all those Civ III beauty pageant polls may have to be changed.

[monkspider]

By the way, congratulations Sir Eddy!!!
I still say the last two are Arabs/Inca though :P

[Grrr]

BTW if Firaxis "cheated" to put the units and tile improvements on the map, does that mean we have a cheat menu or a SAV game scenario editor?

[Ethelred]

Originally posted by ACooper
Please excuse me if this is a stupid question but, why does the conquistador have a dog with it?

The guy that expored the Gulf Coast of the US and spread Small Pox to the Missippi Valley had war dogs and he used them on the Amerinds.