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  • #16
    Originally posted by Spiffor
    Still not.
    I suppose Firaxis won't speak out before E3, 22-24 May.
    Btw Darkcloud, are you interested with the EC3X list ?
    EC3X list?
    The list of ideas for civ III? The one I put on my website?
    What are you talking about?
    Perhaps if you explain I might know better?
    Sorry for not remembering.

    Perhaps you should PM me?
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    • #17
      Originally posted by Ecthelion
      someone's drooling about something that's not going to happen
      stimulus response, stimulus response,...

      ... the real thing doesn't actually have to be there, the ringing bell will do.



      Still, the wording was what got me. It says Great Leaders, so I don't think it's just the leaderheads.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by DarkCloud


        EC3X list?
        The list of ideas for civ III? The one I put on my website?
        What are you talking about?
        Perhaps if you explain I might know better?
        Sorry for not remembering.

        Perhaps you should PM me?
        hi ,

        your site is only about civ2 , ......


        topic ; well its clear now that they are talking about 8 new civ's , so the "great leaders" , ahem , some of them are no to "great" , are the leaders of the new civ's , like "Abe - Us , Jo - France , Shaka - Zululand" , and so on , .........
        now the Q remains as how these civ's shall be put in the game , as part of a pool to chose from or as an add-on , the later the most likely , aldo this not sure , .....

        have a nice day
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        • #19
          your site is only about civ2
          You don't know the secrets of it:



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          • #20
            I think I'll go to E3 this year....

            Yea, it's referring to the 8 new civs. which is really kind of silly, since 8 new civs/leaders/UUs is kind of a given. Redundant, and repetitive. Redundant, and repetitive.
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            • #21
              Originally posted by DarkCloud

              You don't know the secrets of it:



              hi ,

              this site deals only with civ4 , ..... , ...

              and that is the problem , when civ3 comes out crying for 4 , and moaning that 3 aint good , but sure it just could not go fast enough , ........and now the same with 4 , and when that one comes out , the same shall happen , moaning that its not coming out fast enough , and moaning the minute it comes out about , ......civ5 , ........

              so how is any company supposed to do something good , ....well , ....there are still places open at firaxis, .......

              have a nice day
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              - LEGIO PATRIA NOSTRA - one shot , one kill - freedom exists only in a book - everything you always wanted to know about special forces - everything you always wanted to know about Israel - what Dabur does in his free time , ... - in french - “Become an anti-Semitic teacher for 5 Euro only.”
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              • #22
                I originally understood 8 new leaders to mean great leaders. Whoopdeedoo.............I hardly ever see any leaders when playing non-militaristic civs anyway. BFD...........


                Oh, now I understand..........8 new civ leaders to go with the 8 new civs. Oh that's better, much much better.





                Now gotta go have breakfast.
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Haupt. Dietrich
                  I originally understood 8 new leaders to mean great leaders. Whoopdeedoo.............I hardly ever see any leaders when playing non-militaristic civs anyway. BFD...........


                  Oh, now I understand..........8 new civ leaders to go with the 8 new civs. Oh that's better, much much better.





                  Now gotta go have breakfast.
                  hi ,

                  and behold , Gramphos found out that the game can hold a total of 32 , ..........Whoopdeedoo , ........

                  and you better finish that breakfast so you can grow and be strong when PTW comes out , ......it had to be said , .....

                  have a nice day
                  - RES NON VERBA - DE OPRESSO LIBER - VERITAS ET LIBERTAS - O TOLMON NIKA - SINE PARI - VIGLIA PRETIUM LIBERTAS - SI VIS PACEM , PARA BELLUM -
                  - LEGIO PATRIA NOSTRA - one shot , one kill - freedom exists only in a book - everything you always wanted to know about special forces - everything you always wanted to know about Israel - what Dabur does in his free time , ... - in french - “Become an anti-Semitic teacher for 5 Euro only.”
                  WHY DOES ISRAEL NEED A SECURITY FENCE --- join in an exceptional demo game > join here forum is now open ! - the new civ Conquest screenshots > go see them UPDATED 07.11.2003 ISRAEL > crisis or challenge ?

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                  • #24
                    Where are you folks getting your information?

                    I'm looking at the Civ 3 official site right now and it still says 8 new Great leaders. Why do you think it means leaderheads instead of 8 new great leaders?
                    either way it's redundant. we know that if there are 8 new civs, there have to be 8 new leaderheads, and at least 8 new great leaders to go with those (probably 32, since have to have at least 4 GL for each new civ).
                    why would they post that msg if it didn't means something else? could we get a firaxian confirmation? or is it no comment?
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Captain
                      Where are you folks getting your information?

                      I'm looking at the Civ 3 official site right now and it still says 8 new Great leaders. Why do you think it means leaderheads instead of 8 new great leaders?
                      either way it's redundant. we know that if there are 8 new civs, there have to be 8 new leaderheads, and at least 8 new great leaders to go with those (probably 32, since have to have at least 4 GL for each new civ).
                      why would they post that msg if it didn't means something else? could we get a firaxian confirmation? or is it no comment?
                      I tend to agree with you. "Great Leader" normally denotes a specific unit: the military great leaders. But its also possible that the PR person who wrote the statement is not familiar with Civ 3 jargon. Moreover, eight new Great Leaders doesn't seem very plausible. Maybe one or two or three, but eight? We will have to wait and see...
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by panag


                        hi ,

                        and behold , Gramphos found out that the game can hold a total of 32 , ..........Whoopdeedoo , ........

                        and you better finish that breakfast so you can grow and be strong when PTW comes out , ......it had to be said , .....

                        have a nice day
                        Oh yeah, gotta eat breakfast so I can grow big and strong for PTW!

                        I think I'm gonna need a lot of coffee too!
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                        • #27
                          If Firaxis still tries to please its fans, it really SHOULD be 8 new types of Great Leaders.

                          They've been suggested many months ago and I think that these suggestions match the Firaxis criterium 'new suggestions must be outstanding before being implanted' (or something like that).

                          The way they've referred to new leaders, the fact that many fans were disappointed for no early MP and that we have to wait LONG before we must BUY AGAIN, can only mean ONE THING:

                          THEY'RE WILLING TO MAKE AN EFFORT TO REALLY ENLIGHTEN AND PLEASE US.

                          That's fine .

                          So don't disappoint us Firaxians!

                          AJ
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by AJ Corp. The FAIR
                            If Firaxis still tries to please its fans, it really SHOULD be 8 new types of Great Leaders.

                            They've been suggested many months ago and I think that these suggestions match the Firaxis criterium 'new suggestions must be outstanding before being implanted' (or something like that).

                            The way they've referred to new leaders, the fact that many fans were disappointed for no early MP and that we have to wait LONG before we must BUY AGAIN, can only mean ONE THING:

                            THEY'RE WILLING TO MAKE AN EFFORT TO REALLY ENLIGHTEN AND PLEASE US.

                            That's fine .

                            So don't disappoint us Firaxians!

                            AJ
                            hi ,

                            if firaxis wants to please its fans , they should put 8 new civ's in , adding the total to 24 , .........


                            have a nice day
                            - RES NON VERBA - DE OPRESSO LIBER - VERITAS ET LIBERTAS - O TOLMON NIKA - SINE PARI - VIGLIA PRETIUM LIBERTAS - SI VIS PACEM , PARA BELLUM -
                            - LEGIO PATRIA NOSTRA - one shot , one kill - freedom exists only in a book - everything you always wanted to know about special forces - everything you always wanted to know about Israel - what Dabur does in his free time , ... - in french - “Become an anti-Semitic teacher for 5 Euro only.”
                            WHY DOES ISRAEL NEED A SECURITY FENCE --- join in an exceptional demo game > join here forum is now open ! - the new civ Conquest screenshots > go see them UPDATED 07.11.2003 ISRAEL > crisis or challenge ?

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                            • #29
                              Oh rats, I'm going to be the evil pessimistic guy again... But I can resist

                              AJ Corp :
                              If you're going like this, you're sure to whine as soon as the XP is out :
                              1. The goal of Firaxis is not to please some hundreds of fans, it's to make a product which pleases Infogrames, i.e a game that sells to hundreds of thousands units. If they can please us, they would, but it isn't their top priority.

                              2. Eight new types of great leaders ? Please just tell me who had ideas for EIGHT new types of leaders ? Just tell me who would like something like that. I'm not against great artists or great businessmen (something like that), but 8 new types would be way too unbalancing, you'd have dozens of great leaders per game.

                              3. If you have that many expectations on the XP, you'll do exactly as some Civ3-original whiners did : you're absolutely sure to be disappointed, and in a large way. And you'll whine like hell, as Yin26 did, as Libertarian or as Jimmytrick did. If you want this commercial game to match your expectations, be demanding, but don't place your expectations THAT high.
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                              • #30
                                Also, if you had 8 different kinds of great leaders, where would they come from? Battles?
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