Which civs, if included, would you never use?

[Darkworld Ark]

Originally posted by TheBigTurkey
Let's go Canada! Make sure to add the French-Canadians too. I'll make sure to play them, and screw them over for a good laugh. But, on a serious note, Celts, Vikings, Sioux, Hebrews, Canadians, Khmer, Dutch, and Polynesians shouldn't be included, because they are RELATIVELY unimportant for the world. Peace out.

Vikings are more inportant (in my view) than the Iroquois. The Vikings created a religion that influenced alot of Europe. (Were do you think we get the names for the weekdays?) I had bearly heard of the Iroquois before Civ3...

[TheBigTurkey]

I agree with you in that, but because they have to represent the enitre world, i just don't think they'll get in (if there were 9, they would though, in MY book). Peace, out.

[Miznia]

Damn, nobody's winning this poll! And one guy said he'd accept a Philadelphian civ!

How inconclusive!

[KaiserIsak]

I would NEVER play canadiens or hebrew.
Some of you say that the khmer, the dutch and the celts are relatively unimportant, but one nation that really is unimportant is the hebrew.
It was a state a few hundred years in a area that have been in the middle of great states for centuries, both before and after.
Add the Hyskos people if you absolutly want to add a civ from todays palestina. They was the first civ to succesfully invade the tousands year old culture of Egypt.

[The Eliminator]

Put it this way, the only reason that there is an American civ in the game is because 80% of the people who buy the game are Americans. Another 19% are Canadians, so by default Canada should be a civ as well.

Besides, Canada has done more for Western Civilization than America has.

The zamboni, telephone, insulin, basketball, hockey, Estella Warren.

...and we let you loud smelly Yanks land your planes here on Sept 11.

[Cyclotron]

Originally posted by The Eliminator
Put it this way, the only reason that there is an American civ in the game is because 80% of the people who buy the game are Americans

Actually, it's probably because America is the most influential and powerful state in the world today. Just a thought...

[Jethro83]

Screw this "I'm never using that one" attitude. I'll want to try them all out, find their strengths/weaknesses and then come to the decision as to who I want to use more commonly than the rest. Even the ones who I haven't found that interesting at all would be worth my time to try out. It is just a game after all.

[Andrew_Jay]

How about we make up imaginary UU before deciding since they are one of the most important reasons for choosing. That way people can say which of the civs that may or may not be in the game they will not play based on UU that may or may not be in the game
Miznia, tell me more about these "watermelons" . . .

[XarXo]

Please, remember that:

- Civ III covers from 4000 BC to 2050 AC, not only the last 60 years of "american glory".

- At 300 AC, a "huge-huge city" was Rome, that had 1.000.000 of persons. Actually a "huge-huge city" is Tokio with 35.000.000 .

- At 1450 AC (950 years since rome), a "huge-huge city" was Tenochtitlán, that had 1.000.000 of persons. So, you can see that the actual "huge-huge cities" only appeared at the last 200 years.

- At 500 BC, a "menacious civilization" were the one that had more than 100.000 persons.

So, don't say "pathetic" to civs like Khmer, Phoenicians and others of these times. Phoenicians fought with Rome, remember this.

About Phoenicians... Romans are Lacians yes? Actually Italians, yes? The mother of problems with names is the RIDICULOUS FIRAXIAN IDEA that a civ architecture/people/culture can change across the time, but the CIV NAME not! So, don't bore with this, add this evolution with another PATCH and finally put a "Ask for Customize Civ on Era Change" at startup screen.

[Dwarf Lord]

Originally posted by The Eliminator
Put it this way, the only reason that there is an American civ in the game is because 80% of the people who buy the game are Americans. Another 19% are Canadians, so by default Canada should be a civ as well.
[...]

This estimation is total nonsense. You heavily underestimate other gaming Markets like Korea and Europe.
However, I think you are generally right as far as the reason for including the Americans is concerned.

No offence, but the canadians shouldn't be a civ in my opinion. They are relatively unimportant.

[dunk]

Originally posted by Miznia
Damn, nobody's winning this poll! a Philadelphian civ!

Note my location.

If the editor allows adding new civs without replacing old ones, I'll add a Pennsylvanian civ. William Penn as leader. Industrious and Scientific. UU... Pioneer... a 2/5/1 musketman.

I really do hate this poll actually. It's pretty flame-inducing and useless. I would consider it spam if I were a moderator (not a jab at the mods).

[Miznia]

I really do hate this poll actually. It's pretty flame-inducing and useless. I would consider it spam if I were a moderator (not a jab at the mods).

As far as useless, I think the results have just proven uninteresting. I'm really surprised that only two civs clear 10% (if I recall).

I found all the discussion on this thread to be really valuable. I hope Firaxis takes note. I am grateful to all participants so far.

Miznia

[ahenobarb]

Wow, so many third-string Civs here, its hard to pick just one!

I don't mind if people want to play these for a different feel or because they have some affinity for the civ, but I'd hate to play against some of these "civiliations". The problem crops up when you select your opponents and leave them at RANDOM. Unless you hand pick them all, your gonna get stuck with a few of these guys kicking around bugging you for a world map.

Catering to regions of the world in a fantastical sceme to increase sales? fiddlesticks!

[Zoid]

Originally posted by XarXo

So, don't say "pathetic" to civs like Khmer, Phoenicians and others of these times. Phoenicians fought with Rome, remember this.

No, they didn´t. When Carthage had it´s ass whipped in the 3 Punic Wars between 265 BC-146 BC (despite Hannibals brilliant "elephants-over-the-alps attack on Rome) they´d been an independent state for several hundred years. Phonecia had been in decline since Nebucadnezzar conquered Tyre in 573 BC (thus making Cathage an independent city state) Alexander the Greats conquest of Tyre in 332 BC was the final nail in the coffin for Phonecian culture.

About Phoenicians... Romans are Lacians yes? Actually Italians, yes? The mother of problems with names is the RIDICULOUS FIRAXIAN IDEA that a civ architecture/people/culture can change across the time, but the CIV NAME not! So, don't bore with this, add this evolution with another PATCH and finally put a "Ask for Customize Civ on Era Change" at startup screen.

I like that

[Imran Siddiqui]

Romans are Lacians yes? Actually Italians, yes?

Well, kinda, maybe, maybe not. There was a lot of cross breeding. The North went to the Lombards and the South to the Normans after the fall of the Empire on the Italian penninsula, and after that a lot of intermarriage, so that today's Italians really aren't Romans.