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[jshelr]

this is a new bug. the game every once in a while cancels our lux trades. until this time, they cancelled after the turn but the turn did not bomb. this time the game bombed and did not allow a normal save. if Eli declares war, the only option I can think of, the lux trades will already be off when the turn comes to me. this will screw us up big time in lots of ways, but at least the game will go on.

[SpencerH]

Is this the same crash?

I could find any info on possible fixes. Even if it was fixed in 1.14 or 1.21 (I looked but didnt see a fix) that may not help us anyway.

Try posting a couple of help threads, this is obviously gonna be another problem like 'drigate crash'.

[jshelr]

we had a cross post.

[Eli]

I finished replaying my turn and sent one of my units to attack a Zulu worker.

It asked whether I really want to declare war, I said yes. Then it said that I lost the supply of [censored], I said ok.

Then it crashed.

[SpencerH]

We're ****ed unless Firaxis puts out a specific patch to deal with this. I think this is a hardcoded conflict between how we and the AI handle trades.

[jshelr]

Sorry we can't finish but it was fun playing the game with you guys. I will miss my early morning tour of Zululand every day.

[SpencerH]

Dont give up yet!

[jshelr]

Next idea?

[Eli]

Each of us should sacrifice three Cavalries to the gods. Maybe they'll manage to fix the problem.

[SpencerH]

But then you'd have none and I'd still have 20-30.

[Eli]

Well, it's time to get rid of those obsolete units anyway.

[notyoueither]

You think the trades and war are crashing the game?

Have you had someone use Gramphos' tool to edit the problem out?

[notyoueither]

Scratch that. His editor doesn't do diplomacy.

I have found PBEM bugs before. If you send me the save from the last player in the order 2 turns ago, and the admin password, I can see if this can be worked around.

[jshelr]

The save is on another computer which I will get later today. Help would be much appreciated.

[SpencerH]

NYE,

Thanks for the offer

Here is the turn I sent to ELI, there is no admin password necessary. If you click on the active trades in ELI's turn (Korea) it will crash. I believe its the same crash that Jshelr had earlier. I posted the crash details HERE but you'll see that yourself if you access the active trades with the zulu.

I passed through ELI's turn (I didnt look at anything, and didnt learn anything I didnt know before) and went to the zulu turn. It didnt immediately crash, but did when I accessed the active trades with the Koreans.

Maybe Jshelr can give us details of exactly when the crash happened.

What I notice is that after the crash and exit from civ3 that my screen resolution does not return properly when returning to windows, as if there is a driver glitch. I dont know if its directly related to the game bug.