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[MrWhereItsAt]

"Territory that has recently become yours"?

I hope you realise that this is the most blatantly aggressive thing you have done towards me so far. Wars have been declared over this much before!

You need to seriously reconsider your actions... but you've had that Temple for a while now, haven't you?

Did you seriously think you could provoke me so much and get away with it? You could have kept me out of your world war if you'd stopped short.

I'm not taking it bending over nicely for you any more, thanks.

D-Day to Aqua.

[Aqualung71]

I'm sorry if trying to keep my economy in pace with the Greeks, Celts and Mayans has caused you some concern.

Is there anything I can do to repair the damage I have inadvertantly cuased?

[Aqualung71]

No response to my conciliatory message, I see And as always, I remain the passive friendly civ, ready to talk....while others abuse and assault me.

oh well, 1400BC on to Bogor.

[Paddy]

interesting how your placid style of expansionism has effected all the other nations....

[MrWhereItsAt]

It is sad to see that only when directly threatened do the Iroquois respond to the concerns of their neighbour, after preventing peaceful settlement to the establishment of a natural productive core for the Mayans and culturally assimilating Mayan land, causing starvation and financial strife for the government and the Mayan people to boot.

The Mayans care little about the Gems stolen in the cultural expansion of your borders - as the Iroquois should be well aware we were offering them in trade, not that the Iroquois cared to participate in negotiations at all. Instead, the Gems were simply taken. Even the events of the last turn, if taken in isolation, would not have led to the drastic action taken by the Mayan people recently to safeguard their ancestral lands and inhabitants. But they are symptoms of a systematic land-grab expansion-at-all-costs policy by the Iroquois pursued for decades. Even when the Iroquois settled right on the border with the Mayan Chiefdom, there was alarm, but still peace, as most of the land had not been claimed, no Mayan was significantly disadvantaged, and I was convinced still that the Iroquois would halt their advances before relations were damaged. I was a fool to believe that, it seems.

It is particularly ironic how the Iroquois claim they are only trying to keep up with larger economies in a cutthroat world by taking what land they can, even if it had already been claimed. Ironic because the Iroquois have been the largest and most populous nation on the planet for centuries, which they remain to this day. Also the Iroquois must have some of the highest demographics for the world also, certainly higher than the Mayans who have for some reason been targetted as suckers by the Iroquois leader. Why is the largest civ with a self-professed superior economy disadvantaging a less fortunate one that has not ONCE moved in any aggressive way towards them? How does this help the Iroquois against who they claim to be the aggressors and more dangerous civs - the Celts and the Greeks?

The Greeks are singled out by the Iroquois leader for special criticism, but why have events turned out where half of the world is in combat against the Iroquois instead? The Greeks have not persisted in antagonising their neighbour, have participated in open and beneficial trading arrangements and have shown a willingness to cooperate and compromise where the Iroquois have simply taken, and made fun of those they took from. If such tactics from the Greeks are dangerous and aggressive whereas those from the Iroquois are peace-loving and open then the world has become a very strange place indeed.

I, the Mayan Chief, shall consider your words carefully, but it may be hard convincing my people that the Iroquois leader wishes to engage with us after so many years of refusing trades and encroaching upon our lands. Only a real honest attempt at resolving this will change the course of events.

WIA.

[Aqualung71]

Originally posted by Paddy the Scot
interesting how your placid style of expansionism has effected all the other nations....

Interesting how your propaganda and pot-stirring seems to have done the trick

[Paddy]

oh, Mr Pot, please allow me to wipe the black smudge from my face....

[Bogor]

Another interesting turn to Paddy.

[Paddy]

1400bc to MWIA

[MrWhereItsAt]

1400BC to Aqua.

[Aqualung71]

Ah, you shouldn't have done that lad

1375BC to Bogor

[MrWhereItsAt]

/me shrugs

You shove, I shove. You snatch, I snatch back. You threaten the future of the children, the parents take arms and fight for their futures.

[Aqualung71]

Well you could have captured it.....but you razed it instead, killing thousands of innocent women and children.

You are indeed a cruel and despotic dictator. No mercy shall be shown to your people.

[Paddy]

oh look I have more black smudges on my face...

1375bc to MWIA

[MrWhereItsAt]

1375BC to Aqua.