Starting Locations: Duels

[candybo]

Bo scurries for cover..., looking for a flame extinguisher

[Thunderfire]

This happens in larger games too. Some
players are doomed right from the start.
I think scenarios with equal starting
positions will be best for multiplayer.
A good example for a bad starting
position was germany in my last match.
They were in the bottom right of the map
with no special resources and mostly
tundra and forrest fields. Expansion was
also impossible because the koreans
blocked the access to the rest of the
continent.

[DrSpike]

It's always a trade-off in civ MP though. If you have known maps you can avoid the problems you mention, but you also lose much of the need for exploration, and hence some of the need to react to the situation as necessary.

[metalhead]

Originally posted by Zylka
Again, I must reitorate (as proven in this thread) - that I don't bail out of matches, and therefore didn't bail out of yours. You seem full of sarcastic rhetoric as to why you won't play me, only underlining how sh*tty a player you truly are. Duel me now! In the eyes of everyone in this thread, don't prove a coward (ie.) NAH I DONT FINK ILL PLAY SUMONE WHO BAILS WHEN I BARELY DEFEND AGANST A WARRIOR HAR HAR!@#ed)

Seriously though, I can't believe the ol' pillaging warrior trick worked against someone. You need practise, or perhaps a new brain, champ.

You are too easy, dude. How about realizing when someone is trying to get a rise out of you? I'll play you - when I have time for it, which probably won't be until after a patch - right now it's just not worth my time.

[art_vandelai]

Starting positions

The logic for assigning starting positions must be fixed in order for MP to be a good experience for all, otherwise, the ratio of games quit in the first 5 min. will be extremely high.

I think every square in the immediate vicinity (2 sq radius) of each player should be given a point valu, based primarily on how it helps you expand or develop resources, and the point value for every player should be equal. For example - grass with shields might be 1 point, tiles adjoining river might be 1/2 point each, luxuries 2 points, horses 1 point, wheat 2 points, cows 3 points, jungle -.5 points etc.

I played a game yesterday evening as Ottomans right next to Egypt, my starting position was average - but not on a river or extra food tile, and found myself completely boxed-in by my human opponent by 1600BC, no thanks to all of the lovely cows nearby his capital.

[Zylka]

Originally posted by metalhead




You are too easy, dude. How about realizing when someone is trying to get a rise out of you? I'll play you - when I have time for it, which probably won't be until after a patch - right now it's just not worth my time.

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Wittlich]

I guess we can take that as a rise from Zylka!

I glad to see that you're both still corgial to each other.

[War4ever]

zylka what time are you playing these days