Iron Civer _Coliseum B_ Thread II

[bongo]

To McMeadows, 610BC

[McMeadows]

610 BC to jshelr

[jshelr]

to F

[bongo]

Going hunting next week btw, monday to thursday. I might be able to play monday if the save gets in early.

We'll stay in a small cottage without water, electricity, internet access etc. Cell-phone coverage is available if we climb a bit

[Flandrien]

610 bc sent to Bongo

[jshelr]

As a contribution to a discussion that is making the rounds, here is a simulation of horsemen attacking a vet mercenary fortified on a hill. As you can see, the attacker can expect to lose several horsemen in the course of such an attack before killing the defender.

1) Good civ players would not likely engage in such a battle

2) PBEM players should probably avoid such attacks because it looks like a "no risk" experiment. "Let's see if we can kill this mercenary and, if not, we can always reload."

We don't want such perceptions, justified or not, to spoil the fun of actually playing the game.

[jshelr]

That's wierd. Trying the picture again:

[jshelr]

this may finally be the right picture

[jshelr]

still trying. I should have clicked retreat. The sim suggests that you would need 3 horsemen for a 50% shot at killing the mercenary. With retreat, you would need more, on average.

But the point is that highly risky attacks, that are not tactically necessary, but get pulled off without losses, make everyone nervous.

[bongo]

Why did you cut away the retreat part then, that's what makes it interesting


590bc to McMeadows.

[Flandrien]

The mercenary was attacked twice by vet horsemen.
First one retreated.
Second one killed him without losing a hit point.

I think Bongo can confirm this ?

[bongo]

Originally posted by Flandrien
The mercenary was attacked twice by vet horsemen.
First one retreated.
Second one killed him without losing a hit point.

I think Bongo can confirm this ?

True, the first one knocked off 2hps, with only 2 hps left I felt a second try was justified.

[jshelr]

The point is that the odds were heavily against Bongo's attack turning out to be successful. Two horsemen attacking have will win less than 3 times for every 7 that the mercenary wins. In this case, there was also the risk of starting F's golden age.

So, why did Bongo think the attack was a good idea? That is the question.

[bongo]

Come on, do you expect me to tell you the reasoning behind my actions? In the middle of a game?

[jshelr]

Originally posted by bongo
630bc to McMeadowsFlandrien:
Knock knock

It looks like you marched a stack up to F's town, signaled you were about to attack in this quote -- why else did you go there -- didn't like the result, reloaded and then hit the isolated mercenary nearby to change the seed.

We can't prove that and would feel better about playing the game if you could fill us in. I have my doubts that you will be teaching us any secret civcraft that will reduce your edge in the rest of the game