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  • Silent PBEM - Youth in Asia

    The Game

    This is a silent PBEM. Which means, no out of game contact or discussion at all. Everything has to be done through the F4 diplo screen. There will be no chats, or out of game messages, or map trading outside of the game. Deal with each of the other players as if they were an AI. This of course will mean fewer alliances and co-ordinated attacks - or any tech trading in advance. It should raise the uncertainty level greatly - and play a bit like very challenging SP game - and less like a demo game.

    This PBEM thread will only allow "sent to ABC". No smileys or comments or the like which could be a form of communication. And no code on the trade table either. Given the bright and creative bunch we are, I can envision we would soon have a barter language similar to contract bridge. (An opening of 7 gold means I want an alliance ... ) Let's play this straight up to see how it works.

    And I want to maintain this method right throughout the game, to see how it plays out.

    Standard pangaea map - no island starts. Restless or raging barbs is the only question. Sir Ralph has agreed to start the game and check the map for us. Thanks SR!!! He will only be checking that no one has an island start, and that no one has a start which is a complete loss.

    Normal terrain and climate and age. All normal victory conditions in effect.

    No customization of the civs other than putting in your name for the leader.

    The Players

    I am suggesting the following play order:

    asleepathewheel (ex CerberusIV)
    donegeal
    Beta
    GhengisFarb
    Wittlich
    Rhothaerill
    Hot_Enamel

    This is based on your time zone and expected play time and the tried and true east to west method. donegeal has been moved up because of his shift work. If we need changes, let me know.

    We probably know each other's e-mails by now, if not, PM the person ahead of you, or me, and I can provide it.

    The Civilizations

    Seven asian civs, hence the name. (amongst other things. ) None of the civs has an ancient age UU, which should make it interesting. And none are seafaring or agricultural. They are:

    Japan
    China
    Korea
    India
    Mongols
    Russians
    Arabs

    I have numbered the players from 1-6, excluded myself (I will take the seventh and remaining civ), and rolled out my trusty and well-used (albeit old) war-gaming six-sided die. The order of civ choices is as follows:

    1. Rhothaerill
    2. donegeal
    3. CerberusIV
    4. Wittlich
    5. Hot_Enamel
    6. GhengisFarb

    (Ghengis - I did not 'fix' the dice roll given AoD. )

    So - please indicate your civ choice, and whether you want restless or raging barbs. Rhoth goes first.
    Last edited by Beta; March 29, 2004, 21:33.
    Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war .... aw, forget that nonsense. Beer, please.

  • #2
    Wow, first choice. I'll be the Kor...err, no! I'll take the Arabs. I haven't played that civ in quite a while.

    As to barb level, restless is fine with me, but raging is fine too if that is what the majority decision winds up as.

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    • #3
      I will be away starting tomorrow until late Sunday evening. I have PM'd Sir Ralph, so he should be following this thread. If everyone gets their choice in, I say crank it up and get it going.

      btw - I assume we will start on Monarch level, but am amenable to other suggestions. And, I vote for restless barbs. Although raging is Ok too. The way I look at it is that we have GF in the game, so we sort of have raging barbarians by default.

      don - your choice.
      Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war .... aw, forget that nonsense. Beer, please.

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      • #4
        I just realized something. This is the exact opposite concept of the Balderdash PBEM.

        I'll shut up now.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Rhothaerill
          I just realized something. This is the exact opposite concept of the Balderdash PBEM.

          I'll shut up now.


          Actually - there will be a side wager. We all get to bet how long Ghengis can go before he cracks.
          Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war .... aw, forget that nonsense. Beer, please.

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          • #6
            Re: Silent PBEM - Youth in Asia

            Originally posted by Beta
            The Game

            This PBEM thread will only allow "sent to ABC". No smileys or comments or the like which could be a form of communication. And no code on the trade table either. Given the bright and creative bunch we are, I can envision we would soon have a barter language similar to contract bridge. (An opening of 7 gold means I want an alliance ... ) Let's play this straight up to see how it works.
            So if I rename a city "Alliance against Civ A ?" and offer it to Civ B unaccepted, then that would be against the rules


            My choice of civ is going to be random (except Korea - because I have that civ already in another PBEM, and I am going oh so well with it )

            Barbs = restless.

            Monarch level is fine

            I already have cerbs email...and that is all I need.
            I sent Roth my email address.

            Good Luck everyone.
            Last edited by Hot_Enamel; February 12, 2004, 22:39.
            "No Comment"

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            • #7
              Nippon (Japan)

              Raging Barbs

              And I would perfer Regent level.

              I have Beta's E-mail already also.
              Founder of The Glory of War, CHAMPIONS OF APOLYTON!!!
              '92 & '96 Perot, '00 & '04 Bush, '08 & '12 Obama, '16 Clinton, '20 Biden, '24 Harris

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              • #8
                Oh... Cerb, my email in my name at yahoo dot com.
                Founder of The Glory of War, CHAMPIONS OF APOLYTON!!!
                '92 & '96 Perot, '00 & '04 Bush, '08 & '12 Obama, '16 Clinton, '20 Biden, '24 Harris

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                • #9
                  Rule Question :

                  If my civ lacks iron, how do I encourage another player to offer it up. In fact, if I dont have his map and cant actually see that he has two sources, then I wont know which player has iron to trade to me.


                  How do I encourage someone to cough up his iron except offering say 5gpt to every player, and hoping that someone figures out what I am after.

                  I've got no problem with doing this, but I can see frustrating times ahead.
                  "No Comment"

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Hot_Enamel
                    Rule Question :

                    If my civ lacks iron, how do I encourage another player to offer it up. In fact, if I dont have his map and cant actually see that he has two sources, then I wont know which player has iron to trade to me.


                    How do I encourage someone to cough up his iron except offering say 5gpt to every player, and hoping that someone figures out what I am after.

                    I've got no problem with doing this, but I can see frustrating times ahead.
                    Indeed! But on the other hand - they will know you don't have it and may offer it to you. So yes - on one hand frustrating - and on another - well - just a different approach to strategy and trading

                    Sort of reminds me of a game we use to play at poker night. You would pull a card off the deck - and without looking at it, put it on your forehead face up. In other words you could not see it but the other players could. You then had to bet on what you could see the others had - but not you. It was usually played later in the night after considerable beer consumption.

                    Not a perfect analogy - I agree - but you get the idea.

                    And H_E - no creative city naming. Maybe we should insist on default city names. Yes - that may be the best way to go.
                    Last edited by Beta; February 12, 2004, 23:38.
                    Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war .... aw, forget that nonsense. Beer, please.

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                    • #11
                      And btw - Cerb - you are up. The Arabs and Japanese have been taken.
                      Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war .... aw, forget that nonsense. Beer, please.

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                      • #12
                        Updated for those trying to follow:

                        1. Rhothaerill - Arabs
                        2. donegeal - Japan
                        3. CerberusIV
                        4. Wittlich
                        5. Hot_Enamel
                        6. GhengisFarb

                        Civs left:

                        China
                        Korea
                        India
                        Mongols
                        Russians

                        I already have everyone's email, and they all have mine.

                        My cities later in the Game:

                        Ghengistown
                        Ghengis Needs Iron
                        Ghengis Has Dye To Trade
                        Ghengis Wants Allies Against Beta
                        Screw You City

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                        • #13


                          Oh yes - I forgot one critical guideline. Everyone archer rush Ghengis as soon as possible.
                          Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war .... aw, forget that nonsense. Beer, please.

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                          • #14
                            You know this whole "preemptive strike" business hasn't worked out so well for you in the AoD game..........

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                            • #15
                              Email me as soon as you have sorted out the civ distribution and eventual map conditions (% ocean, temperature, humidity, age, barbarian level). PM works too, but not as fast, because I hang out on Apolyton far less now than I did earlier. At least donegeal, CerberusIV and GhengisFarb have my address. I will get your game going at the first opportunity. Do you want me to set your passwords and skip the first turns (while setting back the clock)? In this case, I would need them. Otherwise I'd have to play the first turn for the first player.

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