Who is interested in building a Medieval Mod PBEM when Conquests comes out?

[CerberusIV]

Any thoughts about which civs to include as playable?

It might be worth restricting the choice to those civs with medieval UU's or changing some of the UU's around to ensure all the civs that are playable have a UU in the timeframe of the game.

[Harovan]

I think main combat units should be knights, medinfs, longbowmen, pikemen, trebuchets. Significantly later in the tech tree musketmen and cannons should be added. Both expensive, standalone units. I think cost should be 60 in both cases (musketmen are already costly enough). This should conclude the unit path.

There should be one ancient and one medieval hidden unit. Both should be mobile, and we should choose them as soon as conquests is out.

[marcuspeddle]

Have you all pre-ordered Conquests? Will you start this game as soon as Conquests comes out?

[SirOsis]

I'm afraid when Conquests comes out I will be adding many more PBEM games to the list. Not sure about this one yet will have to think about it.

Anatolia,

Would it be cheaper if I bought it and shipped it to you? Not sure on customs and shipping costs to Korea.

Edit: Looked into it a little. Here is the prohibited list:

Counterfeit postage stamps.
Documents, books, printed papers, engravings or other articles contrary to public security.
Firearms, sabres, and swords for military use.
Firing caps and loaded metal cartridges for portable firearms.
Machines and paper for making cigarettes.
Salt.
Textile fabrics.
Weights and measures.

Might Civ3 be considered "other articles contrary to public security"?

It certainly isn't the most dreaded of all possible imports: Salt!

According to the USPS shipping would be $9 in an envelope and take 4-6 days.

[marcuspeddle]

Computer games are no problem but Chips and Bits will charge me almost USD$40 to ship it to me. I wouldn't have to pay customs on a single game. Could you send it to me? That's a very kind offer. How could I send you the money? International money order? Do you want more wines in the Islands game for this?
Why is salt prohibited???? And I guess this list explains why no one is rolling their own here.

[GhengisFarbâ„¢]

I'm kinda leaning towards discussion on a hybrid of the Age of Discovery and the Middle Ages scenarios. This should allow a wide variety of units and gameplay options.

[SirOsis]

Is the tech tree going to be modified for this scenario? Since I've never modded I'm not sure how easy this is. If we are going to just play in these specific times it would be great to adjust the tech tree to allow for different play types.

I am more interested in hybrid Discovery/MA PBEM as well.

Anatolia, I'll email you.

[GhengisFarbâ„¢]

Should all Gunpowder units (ie Gunpowder ships, Musketmen, Cannons...) be new build units. That is none of the other units upgrade to them/

They do represent a new an unproven technology.

[SirOsis]

I don't think that is necessary since troops should be able to be trained at a barracks with new technology.

Increasing the upgrade cost might be an option to prevent massive upgrades once the tech is researched.

[Harovan]

Originally posted by GhengisFarb
Should all Gunpowder units (ie Gunpowder ships, Musketmen, Cannons...) be new build units. That is none of the other units upgrade to them/

Yes, it would give the player an alternative to continue to build the older, but cheaper unit for not so critical areas without having the hassle of pillaging/roading resources.

[SirOsis]

The more I think about it the more I like the idea of them being new units unless there is a way to allow building of obsolete units if desired. Is this possible with the editor?

[GhengisFarbâ„¢]

I don't think so.

[CerberusIV]

I am in favour of stopping ship units at the age of sail - nothing with an engine allowed so that would take us to galleons and frigates/Man o War. Make privateers slightly cheaper than frigates and assign them to navigation.

I would also go with Sir Ralph's suggestion of stopping the tech tree at printing press, ie no democracy. Despotism, Monarchy, Republic and Feudalism should be enough forms of government to choose from.

[GhengisFarbâ„¢]

Originally posted by CerberusIV
I am in favour of stopping ship units at the age of sail - nothing with an engine allowed so that would take us to galleons and frigates/Man o War. Make privateers slightly cheaper than frigates and assign them to navigation.

I usually play up to Industrialization and make Ironclads have a move of 2 but beef their attack and defense stats a bit. Basically they are used a slow floating fortresses.

Originally posted by CerberusIV I would also go with Sir Ralph's suggestion of stopping the tech tree at printing press, ie no democracy. Despotism, Monarchy, Republic and Feudalism should be enough forms of government to choose from.

That's sounds fine with me.

So there is going to be no railroads or factories?

I also like the idea of taking the Army and Hurry Build ability from Great Leaders and instead making them a powerful military unit that upgrades once or twice to keep pace with the other units.

Sorta like Leaders were in Civ2.

[CerberusIV]

If we are concentrating on medieval units and techs I would favour keeping railroads out as they make a substantial change to the game and to military tactics.

Not having factories means it is a bit harder to build units so avoiding losses is more important and obtaining a tactical advantage crucial.

Allowing leaders a combat role instead of rushing or building armies sounds interesting.