better late than never?

[Foulwik]

hi

well, i finally got burned out on alpha centauri..
i'm ready for something new..


i've put off all this time buying civ3 due to some negative player reviews..

now that it's been out a good while how much fun is it?i know it's been patched some.

does play the world add anything to single player....?
i know the reviews were really bad for play the world when it came out.

any advice will be well appreciated.

Tom

[vmxa1]

I got burnt out on AC a long time ago, it was a great game though.
Most here find Civ3 to be a great game. PTW is a worth while addon for SP for the people that enjoy the game. If you are not a Civ3 fan, then the addon is not going to make you happy either. It adds many things to the game. You will find Civ3 a bit more of a challenge than AC or Civ2.
The PTW forum has a list of the things that make it a buy for most. The interface, the new civs and a tweak in the AI.

[Quintrala]

Lots of people believe that Civ2 is better than Civ3, and actually they aren't so wrong. Civ3 have great features but there is a lot of missing characteristic from civ2. Anyway if you got Civ3 I think that you should add the PTW that is really cool.

[vmxa1]

I must submit that Civ2 being better than Civ3 is pure nostalgia. I understand the sentiment. Civ2 was so easy and had those lame spies and caravans. Cities that were safe with one or two units once you got a wall up. I had it as the #2 game of all time for years, but after Civ3, see no need to play it anymore. I can't think of any features from Civ2 that I would like to see in Civ3, except maybe the movies. I sure do not miss ZoC. Ok, one terraforming of all tiles to grasslands.
Yes Civ3 is not perfect, but at least you will not roll over it at high levels with out any challenge.

[Chilean Presidentâ„¢]

Originally posted by vmxa1
I can't think of any features from Civ2 that I would like to see in Civ3, except maybe the movies.

I prefer Civ3 than Civ2... and I prefer PTW than CIV3, but I believe that one feature that is sure missed from civ2 is the editor.
We can agree that the civ3 editor is nothing like the civ2 editor... but besides that I must say that in general Civ3 is much better than civ2.

[Master Zen]

Agreed. Civ3 is more fun. But Civ2 scenarios are still much better so it would be premature to shelve it.

SMAC is just soooo good. It's a shame they did not rip-off many of SMAC's features for Civ3. It would have been a much better game.

[Master Zen]

Originally posted by vmxa1
I had it as the #2 game of all time for years, but after Civ3, see no need to play it anymore.

Just out of curiosity, what was #1?

In my list, Civ2 stands proud as the #1 game of all time.

[Gunnar Thor]

I also loved Alpha Centauri for years (still do) but if you give Civ 3 time you'll learn to love it. Make no mistake though, you'll have to start again at Chieftain and work your way up, this is a whole new ballgame and a hell of a lot harder than Civ 2 and SMAC. But it's worth it.

[pedrojedi]

It's interesting how people "burn out" of different games. I love strategy games like Civ# and AC because of their replayability, and I never get burned out of them. At most, I play them in "cycles": some months of Civ3, some months of SMAC, some months of Red Alert (red alert? what's it doing here??? ah, I do it anyway, )

But yeah, Civ3 is a breakthrough, and very different form Civ2, which I find good and enjoyable. I don't like the Worms Series after the Armaggedon because of their way of always being almost the same game. At least for me.

[vmxa1]

Originally posted by Master Zen


Just out of curiosity, what was #1?

In my list, Civ2 stands proud as the #1 game of all time.

I had C&C as my number 1, but several where right there: Moo and Warcraft and Homm2 all very close in my list.
I would say that I have played more Moo1 than any other game by far. Civ2 had more replay than C&C by far, I guess it is that I was so impressed with it at the time.

[Chemical Ollie]

Starcraft Broodwar is my greatest game, especially on multiplayer, but I have now quit plaiying it. CIV3 is a game I play for a period, then try something else, but it's about the only game I return to over and over.

[Master Zen]

Originally posted by vmxa1

I had C&C as my number 1, but several where right there: Moo and Warcraft and Homm2 all very close in my list.
I would say that I have played more Moo1 than any other game by far. Civ2 had more replay than C&C by far, I guess it is that I was so impressed with it at the time.

I'm more of a turn-baser myself, although I did have a thing for AoE2 about two summers ago. I'm really looking forward to RoN too

Other than that my faves besides de Civ series have been Doom, Ultima VII and SimCity 3000

[Dauphin]

Originally posted by vmxa1
I can't think of any features from Civ2 that I would like to see in Civ3, except maybe the movies. I sure do not miss ZoC. Ok, one terraforming of all tiles to grasslands.
Yes Civ3 is not perfect, but at least you will not roll over it at high levels with out any challenge.

At first I was annoyed at not being able to terraform as we were in Civ2. But now the concept has grown on me as being more realistic.

[Fatwreck]

Originally posted by vmxa1
I must submit that Civ2 being better than Civ3 is pure nostalgia. I understand the sentiment. Civ2 was so easy and had those lame spies and caravans. Cities that were safe with one or two units once you got a wall up. I had it as the #2 game of all time for years, but after Civ3, see no need to play it anymore. I can't think of any features from Civ2 that I would like to see in Civ3, except maybe the movies. I sure do not miss ZoC. Ok, one terraforming of all tiles to grasslands.
Yes Civ3 is not perfect, but at least you will not roll over it at high levels with out any challenge.

Civ3 will never be as good as civ2, and that is mostly due to the redicolous combat system, I think thay should have made that more complex instead of simplyfying it like they did in civ3...

the fact that a spearman even has a chance of hurting a tank makes me so angry, that never happened in civ2...

[Gunnar Thor]

Originally posted by Fatwreck


Civ3 will never be as good as civ2, and that is mostly due to the redicolous combat system, I think thay should have made that more complex instead of simplyfying it like they did in civ3...

the fact that a spearman even has a chance of hurting a tank makes me so angry, that never happened in civ2...

Well, it does take some time getting used to the combat system. The trick is simply having more veteran troops than the other guy.

But yeah, it was better in Civ II and SMAC.