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buy it on Ebay. You can get civ3+PTW for a bargain price (should be able to get them for less than $15)
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NO! BUY EMPIRE EARTH!!!! NOW!!!
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Since you're a civ player you know what the game is about so I'd say buy it if the money is no big deal. Experienced civ players seem to either love it or hate it very quickly.
On the other hand PtW is due to be patched (again) soon. If that patch does not address the major deficiencys and money is tight I'd say wait till the whole lot goes gold and dont pay more than $10 for both games.We need seperate human-only games for MP/PBEM that dont include the over-simplifications required to have a good AI
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Just one old soldiers opinion. E Tenebris Lux. Pax quaeritur bello.Comment
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Another quick one fellas, have the graphics, sounds, or speed of late game turns changed at all from Civ3 to PTW?Comment
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Well one thing that's been improved since Civ II, is the AI can actually kick some butt once in awhile. Be prepared to get a good thrashing at first trying to get used to the change, it will do things you just didn't expect. Definitely more of a challenge on that score.Originally posted by PDifolco
Well, I knew this forum was biased pro- and posted on purpose !!
Guys I don't mean offense, but could you develop a little on why I'll be happy, its great, and so on ?
What I have is a reasonably pretty (for my modest tastes), stable, MP, moddable game with a boatload of interesting mods and scens (that's Civ 2 MGE
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What has Civ3 that will make me happy to sink 100 € (yes, in France Civ3 and PTW each are at 50 € approx
...) ?
Plus on the same token, it's much more challenging trying to conquer other nations in Civ III, unlike the way you could rip through a civ with just a couple of Howitzers and a Tank before. Conquest requires alot more planning and strategy than it did before, at least if you hope to avoid losing all your troops on a futile campaign. But it's much more satisfying if you end up being the one kicking butt.
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Yes, definitely! The improved stack movement and the rally points make it so much easier to manage your forces. I'd recommend the XP for those two things alone. And if you're into editing at all, it has some nice new features you can tinker with.Originally posted by The Eliminator
Don't mean to hijack the thread, but in your guys' opinion, would it be worth it to buy PTW if you have no intention of paying MP? Is the gameplaying any better?Comment
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graphics and sounds are basically the same, the scenario packs include different terrain graphics though, some of them are pretty good.Originally posted by The Eliminator
Another quick one fellas, have the graphics, sounds, or speed of late game turns changed at all from Civ3 to PTW?
Speed hasn't changed, if your computer is as slow as mine, you'll have 15-turns on huge maps by the industrial age...But anything on standard is pretty playable.
One graphical change I saw in PTW is that the leaderheads are of poorer quality... however I'm not sure if this is because of the not-so-legal version of PTW I got..A true ally stabs you in the front.
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There are new graphics for the units and a few changes to the city build possibilities from 1.29 to PtW 1.14.We need seperate human-only games for MP/PBEM that dont include the over-simplifications required to have a good AI
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Just one old soldiers opinion. E Tenebris Lux. Pax quaeritur bello.Comment
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Re: A very original question ..
Should I buy Civ3 ?
That is true. There really are no great scenarios out for Civ3.Originally posted by PDifolco
Hello all
When Civ3 went out I didn't pay much attention, only when I saw PTW I realized that it was a real "Civ", not a damn ¤*$^ p o c like CTP (that I bought...).
I still didn't buy it, but instead got Civ2 out of the basement shelf, reinstalled, patched to MGE 1.3, and was amazed at the mass of good mods and scenarios available, as well as by the game itself that IMO did age quite well...
With Civ2 I can play LOTR, Roman Empire, WWII, Feudal Japan or SW scenarios, all very compelling and well-done. With Civ3 it looks like people will have much more difficulties producing mods due to the new tech complexities.
I personally got bored of it quite easily. I couldn't finish a game at all....I'm an old-school strat/war gamer, was already 20+ when Civ1 was released, and have no problems playing "old" games as long as they are good.
NO! Even with the patch, I hear PtW multiplayer still sucks.So should I put 80 €+ in this game ? I'm already somewhat upset to have to pay for MP, but is it worth it game-wise ?.
Civ3 will probably need something more powerful than your machine to run at an enjoyable level.OK Civ3 has better graphics and whizbang, but I'm not much of a whizbang fan, usuallly get fed up by animations after 1 hour, and have a very bottomline machine (Athlon 500) that coughs at anything 3D.
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Yup, all fanboys here at 'poly.
I am.
Buy it, come here, we'll help you learn to kick ass and take names.The greatest delight for man is to inflict defeat on his enemies, to drive them before him, to see those dear to them with their faces bathed in tears, to bestride their horses, to crush in his arms their daughters and wives.
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Re: A very original question .. Should I buy Civ3 ?
Just a quick comment, your CPU speed is not really the bottleneck to system performance in Civ3, unless you are playing on huge maps during modern times.Originally posted by PDifolco
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OK Civ3 has better graphics and whizbang, but I'm not much of a whizbang fan, usuallly get fed up by animations after 1 hour, and have a very bottomline machine (Athlon 500) that coughs at anything 3D.
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I have an AMD K6-2 380 and I have no problems running standard and large maps, however I have 380+Mb ram and would like more.tis better to be thought stupid, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
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Thx all !
EBay is not really a possibility, I'm in Europe and p&h will be a killer, even admitting I find sellers accepting orders from Europe...
I'm really pissed off to have to buy an expansion to have MP (that I won't use much if at all) and "new" features that should have been in a patch .... cash cow marketing
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I still enjoy Civ2 (that I bought only when price dropped, having to pay for a game + 2 expansions + MP game was stg of a theft), and IMO the new Civ3 features don't make for the loss of mods/scenarios I suppose I'll do the same here and wait for a Civ3+PTW bundle for less than 30€.Comment
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I checked and PTW goes for about $45 CAD, a little steep for an expansion pack! Will check on eBay, hopefully it can be had for cheap.
I love the idea of radars and airbases, Celts and Vikings, and especially Koreans, now I'll have a new favourite civ to destroy in all my games (sorry russia).Comment
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