The Perfect Civ List

[The Mad Monk]

Originally posted by XarXo
I'm 29, I'm married and I'm school history teacher.

What about accepting this? : Your civs shouldn't be in a game that starts at 4000 BC.

That was my reason for taking the Americans out of Civ II, and it will be my reason for taking us out of Civ III (when I get around to it).

[Master Zen]

I don't think thats a good idea, I mean, this game is not supposed to be a historical "what if". It'd be no fun if every country acted the exact way it did in history.

If I took your approch then I'd voluntarily retire every game after 1520 (I play as the Aztecs usually)

[Cyclotron]

The civs thrown in are put in because of two things: Importance, and geographical need. That is, civs important in history and those civs which are needed to fill certain parts of the map are included. According to these criteria, the Americans are more deserving than most to be on the civ list. Our presence as the only world superpower gives us importance.

Civ was meant to cover all eras of history. Why are the Americans, who are powerful in the modern era (but didn't exist in the ancient) less important than a civ that was powerful in the ancient age, but does not exist now?

[Panag]

hi ,

, .....


, Zaire , now know as congo kinshasa should be in the game , one of the biggest countries in the world , ..... with a new type of government , dictorship , .....

have a nice day


edit ; typo

[Chilean President™]

Originally posted by cyclotron7
Civ was meant to cover all eras of history. Why are the Americans, who are powerful in the modern era (but didn't exist in the ancient) less important than a civ that was powerful in the ancient age, but does not exist now?

I totally agree with you. In modern era we couldn't play with Egypt or Persia. Of course is weird to attack Paris with carthage's stealth plane but, that's the way the game it is. Who cares about complete history accuracy, is more fun like that.

[XarXo]

Well, is pretty difficult accept truths. Zero latinoamerican countries were in Civ1, Civ 2 and Civ 3 .

Remember Ctp series? What happened when they included Jamaica?

Is useless wrote anything more, you are the ones that should accept your own reality (for do something called "social evolution", something very rare in south america in exception of Brasil).

Bye, from this thread. Good luck with "Civilization 2403".

[Chilean President™]

Originally posted by XarXo
Well, is pretty difficult accept truths.

Yeah. You're a proof of that

you are the ones that should accept your own reality

we do, the sad thing is that you are an ignorant that doesn't know the reality of the world out from your tiny island.

Bye, from this thread. Good luck with "Civilization 2403".

Bye XarXo! is nice meet new people, specially when their proof to be intelligent, but is priceless meet people like you in this day and age. Good luck with growning up

[Ivellios]

Someone should really put the Dutch in and give them Hedonistic and Eudaimonic properties . They should be able to build coffeeshops at all of their bases that increase the number of happy faces. Incense should also create additional happy faces.

Or maybe not.

[Traelin]

Originally posted by Kingof the Apes

Yes. They influenced history way more than the Polynesians.

My civs woud be:
Inca
Isreal
Ethiopia
Maybe the Dutch

I agree wholeheartedly with your list. But I'd say definitely the Dutch.

1. Dutch
2. Israel
3. Incas

[Traelin]

Originally posted by Ivellios
Someone should really put the Dutch in and give them Hedonistic and Eudaimonic properties . They should be able to build coffeeshops at all of their bases that increase the number of happy faces. Incense should also create additional happy faces.

Or maybe not.

Yes, include the Dutch! I'll be seriously perturbed if they aren't included in another XP. I want all my Colonial powers in the game, if for no other reason than to relive my nostalgia for Colonization.

[Ivellios]

Well, yes but it's not like we had a major part in history or something... Sure we had enough colonies (Indonesia, Surinam, South Africa, New Amsterdam), but we're far from being as influential as the Greek or Romans were.

Not that I wouldn't welcome them with open arms though

[brianshapiro]

do you really think israel was a competitive empire
cultural influence isnt the only criteria
having israel in against france, US, and rome, will just feel silly

[Cyclotron]

Originally posted by Traelin
I agree wholeheartedly with your list. But I'd say definitely the Dutch.

1. Dutch
2. Israel
3. Incas

Why would Israel be above the Incas? Israel is not necessary for geographical balance, while the Incas are critical.

[The Mad Monk]

Originally posted by brianshapiro
do you really think israel was a competitive empire
cultural influence isnt the only criteria
having israel in against france, US, and rome, will just feel silly

Israel may not have been a 'competitive empire', but its cultural significance far exceeds any single nation in existance today.

[statusperfect]

Originally posted by Chilean President
Bye XarXo! is nice meet new people, specially when their proof to be intelligent, but is priceless meet people like you in this day and age. Good luck with growning up

The irony...