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  • The Lapps, Basque, and also Seljuks, should be added to barb tribes. And barbs should be neutral people you can declare war on or even trade with.

    The VietCong UU (10,14,1, no terrain penalty) should be added to
    the Vietnamese civ, and there should be longboats before caravels. Triremes are too crappy and lasts too long before obsoletion.

    In addition I want the norwegian invention of the cheeze slicer , and the paperclip, and the spraybox, added to the tech-tree.
    My words are backed with hard coconuts.

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    • Barbarians as neutral civs would open up a huge array of interesting possibilities. It's a great idea actually.

      For example you could have barbarians at a slight technological disadvantage from the least advanced civ as well as other slight penalties.

      Another idea: every civ starts as barbarians but has to do "something" to get up to civ status.
      A true ally stabs you in the front.

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      • Yeah, that could be really great! You have to build real good infrastructure or create a wonder or discover enough of the world, or just something like that... Then you lose barb status and become a civ.
        My words are backed with hard coconuts.

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        • If the game is to be really accurate historically, then some civs should also be taken out at certain ages. For example, take the Egyptians, they were one of the greatest civs in the ancient ages, but can anyone imagine them having nuclear weapons?

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          • Barbarians as neutral civs would open up a huge array of interesting possibilities
            I agree. Imagine some of the strategies really used by the Roman and Bizantum Empires. It was very often for them to use "Barbarian" tribes to fight their enemies.

            If was able to talk to the barbarians in Civ3 just like the other nations, then one can buy alliance with the barbarians and make them go in big numbers and attack the oponent civ (make an uprising with an aim to destoy someone). One can buy them with money, or by destoing a rival barbarian tribe, or saving them from another civ. There can even be an option to equipt the barbarians with more "modern" weapons so instead of the stupid wariors and at most horseman they can use pikeman or even swordsman. (only if supplied with the tech by another civillized nation)

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            • A new patch should be made.

              American civ should be renamed Saviors

              Great Leader: Saint George Bush

              traits:
              almighty
              (all negative opinion points from invading someone are erased as long as a country whose points you want to have erased buys oil from you)

              peacekeepers
              (war weariness has opposite effect - the more you are involved in a war, the more happy your citizens are)

              UU: CNN reporter
              (all combat damage of your unit is halved, as long as a CNN reporter is in the unit´s radius)
              Last edited by Sparkle; March 25, 2003, 23:12.

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              • Sparkle you are great man.

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                • I liked this thread better for the three posts or so when it was about TV.
                  Everything changes, but nothing is truly lost.

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                  • I don't see why not - practically all the decent sim ideas have come out of the US (ok, exceptions like Populus, Theme Park/Hospital and maybe Sim City?).

                    In other words, without them, there would be no Civ games, so it's kind of self deluding not to include them...
                    Some cry `Allah O Akbar` in the street. And some carry Allah in their heart.
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                    • Originally posted by War of Art


                      Well, not really wrong [snip] untill they too are English.

                      Enough ?

                      -Jam
                      brilliant! So good in fact that I've stored thaty one away on my hard disc, which is not something I ordinarily do.



                      Do not be too proud of this technological terror you've constructed...

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                      • America should not be a civ, as it is an extension of English culture.
                        No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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                        • Originally posted by The Mad Monk
                          America should not be a civ, as it is an extension of English culture.
                          And, Irish, Italian, Polish, etc...

                          Well, let's say European culture, but it has developed into another through time... Automobile culture? Guns culture? Entertainment culture?

                          Something about that culture we love (Rock'n roll being the greatest) , other things we just hate. (such as their politicians)
                          My words are backed with hard coconuts.

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                          • Originally posted by Chilean President
                            Maybe we could get both of them. The Sputnik Program to start the space race and the Apollo Program to finish it with the launch of the space ship. We could rename the Apollo Prgrm. to 'Mission to Mars' or 'Mission de Alfa Centauri' to be more accurate.
                            hi ,

                            indeed there should be civ related wonders

                            with a good scenario it has to be possible

                            have a nice day
                            - RES NON VERBA - DE OPRESSO LIBER - VERITAS ET LIBERTAS - O TOLMON NIKA - SINE PARI - VIGLIA PRETIUM LIBERTAS - SI VIS PACEM , PARA BELLUM -
                            - LEGIO PATRIA NOSTRA - one shot , one kill - freedom exists only in a book - everything you always wanted to know about special forces - everything you always wanted to know about Israel - what Dabur does in his free time , ... - in french - “Become an anti-Semitic teacher for 5 Euro only.”
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                            • Originally posted by The Mad Monk
                              America should not be a civ, as it is an extension of English culture.

                              hi ,

                              yeah right , ......


                              in the last 200 years the US has clearly show that it has its own destinctive culture , clearly not being an mere "extension" of any culture what so ever , partly due to the people from so many cultures that gave birth to it , .......

                              have a nice American day
                              - RES NON VERBA - DE OPRESSO LIBER - VERITAS ET LIBERTAS - O TOLMON NIKA - SINE PARI - VIGLIA PRETIUM LIBERTAS - SI VIS PACEM , PARA BELLUM -
                              - LEGIO PATRIA NOSTRA - one shot , one kill - freedom exists only in a book - everything you always wanted to know about special forces - everything you always wanted to know about Israel - what Dabur does in his free time , ... - in french - “Become an anti-Semitic teacher for 5 Euro only.”
                              WHY DOES ISRAEL NEED A SECURITY FENCE --- join in an exceptional demo game > join here forum is now open ! - the new civ Conquest screenshots > go see them UPDATED 07.11.2003 ISRAEL > crisis or challenge ?

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                              • Yes of course it should be included. The United States is the prominant world super power and has been for some time now. It is the World Hegimon, and if you'll notice most of the super powers from ages past were included. If you are the strongest nation of an era you absolutly deserve a spot in this game.
                                Al Villa

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