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I've never been able to do the propoganda thins. Why not?
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Democracy.
If the AI government = Democracy, they are immune to propaganda. Check on the Military Advisor screen to see their government type."Stuie has the right idea" - Japher
"I trust Stuie and all involved." - SlowwHand
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Democracy makes any civ immune to propoganda, including your own, its not an AI cheat.* A true libertarian is an anarchist in denial.
* If brute force isn't working you are not using enough.
* The difference between Genius and stupidity is that Genius has a limit.
* There are Lies, Damned Lies, and The Republican Party.Comment
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Thanks guys!
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This is totally unrealistic to me. Why are democracies immune to propaganda? They could have made it so the success rate for propaganda actions against a democratic government would be low, but immunity to propaganda is something that breaks the game balance, IMO.
On the other hand, I can see that they wanted to tone down propaganda, considering how powerful it was both in Civ2 and in SMAC. Laudable effort, bad result.I watched you fall. I think I pushed.Comment
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hi ,
, it has been posible to get some propaganda working in a democrazy , if there is a long war going on they change government type , if the city is close to you and far away from a palace , without a courthouse or policestation , you get a very good chance , ....
have a nice day- RES NON VERBA - DE OPRESSO LIBER - VERITAS ET LIBERTAS - O TOLMON NIKA - SINE PARI - VIGLIA PRETIUM LIBERTAS - SI VIS PACEM , PARA BELLUM -
- LEGIO PATRIA NOSTRA - one shot , one kill - freedom exists only in a book - everything you always wanted to know about special forces - everything you always wanted to know about Israel - what Dabur does in his free time , ... - in french - “Become an anti-Semitic teacher for 5 Euro only.”
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Originally posted by Alexnm
This is totally unrealistic to me. Why are democracies immune to propaganda? They could have made it so the success rate for propaganda actions against a democratic government would be low, but immunity to propaganda is something that breaks the game balance, IMO.
On the other hand, I can see that they wanted to tone down propaganda, considering how powerful it was both in Civ2 and in SMAC. Laudable effort, bad result.
it is amazing to me that they kept propoganda in CIv 3. as I believe that Culture flipping is intended to model this as well. I would like to see a propoganda mission to be able to be used against your own citizens to keep them happy (esp during a long war, like what the warring countries did in WW I and WW II)* A true libertarian is an anarchist in denial.
* If brute force isn't working you are not using enough.
* The difference between Genius and stupidity is that Genius has a limit.
* There are Lies, Damned Lies, and The Republican Party.Comment
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hi ,Originally posted by Mad Bomber
it is amazing to me that they kept propoganda in CIv 3. as I believe that Culture flipping is intended to model this as well. I would like to see a propoganda mission to be able to be used against your own citizens to keep them happy (esp during a long war, like what the warring countries did in WW I and WW II)
well it has its benefits , .....
one example ; a city has "flipped" to an other nation , try "propaganda" on them , you are going to get your city back with a good chance of not going to go to war , ...
have a nice day
- RES NON VERBA - DE OPRESSO LIBER - VERITAS ET LIBERTAS - O TOLMON NIKA - SINE PARI - VIGLIA PRETIUM LIBERTAS - SI VIS PACEM , PARA BELLUM -
- LEGIO PATRIA NOSTRA - one shot , one kill - freedom exists only in a book - everything you always wanted to know about special forces - everything you always wanted to know about Israel - what Dabur does in his free time , ... - in french - “Become an anti-Semitic teacher for 5 Euro only.”
WHY DOES ISRAEL NEED A SECURITY FENCE --- join in an exceptional demo game > join here forum is now open ! - the new civ Conquest screenshots > go see them UPDATED 07.11.2003 ISRAEL > crisis or challenge ?Comment
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how can you actually know what governement the AI has? only on the military advisor screen?Originally posted by Stuie
Democracy.
If the AI government = Democracy, they are immune to propaganda. Check on the Military Advisor screen to see their government type.- Artificial Intelligence usually beats real stupidity
- Atheism is a nonprophet organization.Comment
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I'm pretty sure that's the only place the AI's current government type is displayed.Originally posted by sabrewolf
how can you actually know what governement the AI has? only on the military advisor screen?"Stuie has the right idea" - Japher
"I trust Stuie and all involved." - SlowwHand
"Stuie is right...." - GuynemerComment
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But they made propaganda so ridiculously expensive in Civ3 that really, who uses it? I have NEVER used propaganda.
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I use it if I can get espionage before the AI gets to democracy (doesn't happen often). using a propoganda mission is a great way to get luxury resources or a foothold on another continent without going to war.* A true libertarian is an anarchist in denial.
* If brute force isn't working you are not using enough.
* The difference between Genius and stupidity is that Genius has a limit.
* There are Lies, Damned Lies, and The Republican Party.Comment
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hi ,Originally posted by HolyWarrior
But they made propaganda so ridiculously expensive in Civ3 that really, who uses it? I have NEVER used propaganda.
its still way cheaper then war or buying all the buildings inside most cities , .....
have a nice day- RES NON VERBA - DE OPRESSO LIBER - VERITAS ET LIBERTAS - O TOLMON NIKA - SINE PARI - VIGLIA PRETIUM LIBERTAS - SI VIS PACEM , PARA BELLUM -
- LEGIO PATRIA NOSTRA - one shot , one kill - freedom exists only in a book - everything you always wanted to know about special forces - everything you always wanted to know about Israel - what Dabur does in his free time , ... - in french - “Become an anti-Semitic teacher for 5 Euro only.”
WHY DOES ISRAEL NEED A SECURITY FENCE --- join in an exceptional demo game > join here forum is now open ! - the new civ Conquest screenshots > go see them UPDATED 07.11.2003 ISRAEL > crisis or challenge ?Comment
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Except that propaganda works very rarely. So basically, it's like throwing away about 5k gold.KoH
"There are no stupid questions, but there are a LOT of inquistive idiots."Comment
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You seem to be targeting the wrong cities. target the smallish cities, and cities without many culture improvements, if the cost is above 250g for the mision it will iusually fail. Cities that are isolated are also good targets. Never target a civ in Communism as the chance of succeding is very small due to their expert spies. If you happen to use communism, propoganda is considerably more effective.Except that propaganda works very rarely. So basically, it's like throwing away about 5k gold* A true libertarian is an anarchist in denial.
* If brute force isn't working you are not using enough.
* The difference between Genius and stupidity is that Genius has a limit.
* There are Lies, Damned Lies, and The Republican Party.Comment
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