Computer Gaming World CIVIII preview

[Chronus]

DAN QUOTE: "Our goal has always been quality and not quantity."

GOOD! Please keep it that way.

One of the most annoying arguments in the CTP2 fiasco was that everybody and their mother wanted THEIR country represented in the game. They would then rattle on about just HOW IMPORTANT their country was to the history of the world and just HOW TERRIBLE this earth would be if wasn't for the contributions of THEIR BLESSED COUNTRY!

Sorry for the hard-nosed stance but . . . please give me a break.

And to be a good sport, I'll gladly volunteer my home country, the U.S. of A, to NOT be represented in Civ III. I very rarely play the Americans anyway. Before you hurl the tomatos, keep in mind that Dan did mention the ability to customize our own civs. Even now, in Civ II, we can do that.

[Lung]

Perhaps i've read too many Asterix comics, but i thought Caesar's hair was a bit lighter. And besides, why does he look like a goddamned Romulan?

Oh, and the last is definitely Elizabeth I. The second last is obviously Joan of Arc, but in this pic she looks a little bit like the actress Julianne Moore, albeit a little chubby

[Lawrence of Arabia]

Its not Julius. ithink that its Alexandre the Great. juluis Caesar would have laurels above his head.

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[Roman]

quote: 16 leaders? Not so many, if Firaxis isn't ready to add some monthly, downloadable for free on its site.

That does not concern me in the slightest. In fact, I would be very encouraged by this if I knew that we can play with all 16 of these civs (or at least 15 + barbarians) at the same time in one game. Unfortunately, this is uncertain at best.

[Fintilgin]

My major desire with the leaders is to be able to have more then seven or eight playing at once as well. Sixteen is a preaty good number if you can play them all at once.

Plus, hey, we got an addon to SMAC, we may well see an addon to Civ3, with new units, civilizations, buildings, technologies etc etc. In fact, I suspect Firaxis would be mad not to do this, as it would practically be printing money. Y'know `Civilization 3: Great Empires', or something.

Joe

[Eli]

Unless Israel in some version of it added to the game I'm not going to buy it.

[HisMajestyBOB]

A long long time ago (at least Dec or Jan) I saw something on the Apolyton Civ3 site about the idea of minor civs making it into the game. Anyone know anthing new about this idea?

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[This message has been edited by HisMajestyBOB (edited April 04, 2001).]

[Adm.Naismith]

Minor Civ presence was announced by Sid Meier himself, on a post/interview.
Of course they must have a special role into the game, to avoid them to become "sitting ducks" prey for any conqueror Civ, i.e. you must have some advantage to keep them as allied or puppet state, more than assimilating itno your empire.

I supposed they'll replace Civ 2 hut/SMAC pod (for trade, tribute, free tech, diplomatic treat) and barbarians on the map (no more coming from nowhere but as regular troops/mercenaries of minor civ).

But CGW preview speak about barbarians still in game, with an added "tent village" base you can attack to repel them outside your border.

Now I'm confused a bit
I still suppose Minor Civ will replace at least the old silly huts, to add more interaction to the old "treasure hunt".
I don't think we'll have real diplomacy: Firaxis defined only 14 leaders for full diplomatic table, so I suppose that they decided to use an "anonymous" diplomat/trader to represent any minor civ (low probability) or reduce interaction to very few choices/offers.

I really hope they don't keep the "random gift" model of old huts/pod under a new name

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Admiral Naismith AKA mcostant

[Steve Clark]

quote: Originally posted by Dan Magaha FIRAXIS on 04-03-2001 12:14 AM Our goal has always been quality and not quantity. We're putting a lot of effort into the default set of civilizations and units, but we fully expect that players will be able to create whatever civs, units, scenarios, or whatever else they wanted that we just don't have time to create.

'Nuf said. Quit whining about what's there or not there.

I fully anticipate that after playing it through once, I'll be playing with custom modpacks and scenarios (downloaded from Apolyton!) from then on out.

[ASHBERY76]

I cant believe they have put joan of arc instead of napoleon.
BOOO.

[Father Beast]

quote: Originally posted by Eli on 04-04-2001 04:28 PM Unless Israel in some version of it added to the game I'm not going to buy it.

If they could have the "Wise Pandas", I don't see why you couldn't have Israel.

[Wazell]

Because Wise Pandas have been more important in the history of civilization than some desert country.

[Adm.Naismith]

ROTFL,
BTW how many citizen has Finland, near its thousand lakes?

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Admiral Naismith AKA mcostant

[Fintilgin]

Yeah, I'm going to miss Napoleon. Maybe they still have a male and female leader for each country though. Probably not, but they just might.

We can always hope that's not Joan of Arc.

I'm hoping Japan is in there, as I'd like to see more non-Euro/American countries. But if it isn't, maybe it'll be added in the expansion back or by some talented mod-team.

Joe

[Roman]

quote: Originally posted by Fintilgin on 04-09-2001 11:32 AM Yeah, I'm going to miss Napoleon. Maybe they still have a male and female leader for each country though. Joe

The mere thought of this notion leaves me petrified. It has been stated that there are 16 leaders altogether. If they have a male and female leader for every country it means that there are only 8 civilizations. In itself this wouldn't be a problem, nut it also suggests that most likely we will only be able to play with 8 civilizations in one game. Nooooooo!!!!! But I am sure that is not the case.