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  • #16
    I get it now!!

    quote:


    Gone is the original game's slightly cumbersome city-management screen.



    The designer got confused with CTP, which had the city-management screen. Civ2 has the city-screen, which will also make it into Civ3.
    Rome rules

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    • #17
      Is the second pic, the city view? It looks great. It looks like a city not like the ciity view in civ2! WOW

      About the city screen: did they get rid of workers on tiles? Can you adjust the production and food directly? They look like sliders, but I am not sure. I want to know!

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      G'Kar - from Babylon 5 episode "Z'ha'dum"

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      • #18
        While this looks amazing, can it be comfirmed by Firaxis? Dan?
        *grumbles about work*

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        • #19
          Yeah, these shots are really dark... is this because of you scanning it, or are these shots really photonically challenged in the magazine?

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          • #20
            Speaking of scanning, would someone pease do that for those of us who can't get the magazine? I'd REALLY appreciate it.
            Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it. And perhaps everyone else, too.

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            • #21
              Ya gotta love this place. I found my copy of CGW in the mailbox, goggled at the cover and the screen shots(!), raced in to the computer to announce the news and post some scans......and shuttleswo beat me to it by a mile!

              The scans he posted are pretty accurate in terms of color. Maybe a tad darker than the mag. My first thought on seeing the terrain was "vibrant", especially the city-view.

              Well, now I guess I've got some time to actually sit down and relish....uh....read the article.
              To La Fayette, as fine a gentleman as ever trod the Halls of Apolyton

              From what I understand of that Civ game of yours, it's all about launching one's own spaceship before the others do. So this is no big news after all: my father just beat you all to the stars once more. - Philippe Baise

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              • #22
                Well, the screenshots still look awfully rough. I can see why Dan wouldn't rush to post them. Encouraging, however.

                BTW, shuttleswo, are you studying at Ursinus College in PA? If so, we have just starting working on a Sister Campus relationship (we: Kyung Hee University in Korea). In which case, if you ever want to experience Korea through this (hopefully soon-to-be signed) agreement, I'll be the guy helping get you here.
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                • #23
                  One of the best things about this is.....it STILL looks like CIV!!!!!
                  To La Fayette, as fine a gentleman as ever trod the Halls of Apolyton

                  From what I understand of that Civ game of yours, it's all about launching one's own spaceship before the others do. So this is no big news after all: my father just beat you all to the stars once more. - Philippe Baise

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                  • #24
                    Wow, what can I say... I'm impressed...

                    But, has anyone else realized that the units depicted in the first screenshot, as well as in the last one, have nothing to do with the ones already posted by Firaxis at the official site?

                    Might these be old, and posibly obsolete, screenshots?
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                    • #25
                      On second viewing, I'm not so critical. These are scanned images, so the quality ain't that great.

                      Good things :

                      - City View!! Yeah!! Looks absolutely awesome...although I wonder, things like the aquaduct...will this disappear in modern ages? (Like when a sewer system is built) The fact that the city view screen is in the game makes me almost fall immeadiately in love with Civ3 (as if I wasn't already)

                      - Lighthouse Wonder (looks like it from city view)

                      - There will be advisors

                      Bad:

                      - There's going to be no Public works system...sigh


                      The unknown:

                      - Still nothing concrete on stacked combat (although it looks hopeful)
                      - How far along are these graphics?

                      Anybody from Firaxis want to comment?


                      If the voices in my head paid rent, I'd be a very rich man

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                      • #26
                        Alright, already! Enough! My concern is that nobody has said anything negative yet. Didn't we go through a similar scenario not too long ago with CTP2? Everybody was gaga over it until the product finally reared its ugly head.

                        With that said, having leader units appear (and possibly artitists, scientists, etc.) sounds pretty interesting. Culture sounds cool and more emphasis on economy/trade and such just tickles my ears.

                        My expectations for this game is much higher than CTP2. I suppose this is unfair but ...

                        Now let's just hope the actual game can live up to its reputation.

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                        • #27
                          does the magazine have a website?

                          I found a website www.zdnet.com/cgw but it doesn't mention anything about civ3. Am i in the right place? or did i just miss something?

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                          • #28
                            Kull, or shuttleswo, are the images (that shuttleswo posted) that "grainy" in the magazine? Or was it just the scanning?
                            If the voices in my head paid rent, I'd be a very rich man

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                            • #29
                              quote:

                              Originally posted by Zanzin on 03-27-2001 09:56 PM
                              Kull, or shuttleswo, are the images (that shuttleswo posted) that "grainy" in the magazine? Or was it just the scanning?


                              it's probably a little bit of both, i saved the files as gif's to reduce the size of the files a bit, this causes them to loose some color, which consquently could make them look more grainy/darker or distorted. like i said, i really hope the CGW or Firaxis will post some better ones soon b/c any scan of a print magizine isn't going to be as good as a screen capture, no matter how big the file or detailed the scan. although the "city manager" view is really small and dark in the mag. the city view takes up nearly two pages and is clearly the 'money shot' of the article - the rest are small accent shots in the margin.

                              quote:

                              Originally posted by yin26 on 03-27-2001 07:50 PM
                              BTW, shuttleswo, are you studying at Ursinus College in PA?


                              actually i'm an employee at the collge in the cs department.

                              [This message has been edited by shuttleswo (edited March 27, 2001).]

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                              • #30
                                I see.

                                Well, now that the cats out of the bag, as such, Firaxis might loosen up and post some nice screenshots.

                                I can understand that if the other pics were little ones then the quality is going to suffer. In "the early main map screen", would people agree that the city looks like a "castle" style?

                                Also, in the other pic with a whole heap of units, I can pick out four differnt tanks!! Interesting. There also appears to be Arhcers, warrior type units, and a funky little cannon
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