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Unofficial Poll 1: Do you want to keep the Demographics page in Civ2?
The question here is do you want to keep the Demographics system from Civ2. Also, if someone from the FIRAXIS teams reads this, could them explain the formulae for finding things such as birthrate, military service and land area.
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"Everything for the State, nothing against the State, nothing outside the State" - Benito Mussolini -
Yes... I loved looking at it and getting a "feel" for the differences between the civs. -
Here here!! Demographics screen is a must for the atmosphere of the game and the engrossment you feel with your civIf the voices in my head paid rent, I'd be a very rich manComment
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Absolutely!! the line graph just didnt cut it for me. i wanted to know EVERY detail of where i stood in comparision to my enemies/friends. if i wasnt #1 it gave an extra something to work for before i won the game.Comment
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Yes, by all means! Include it
No Fighting here, this is the war room!Comment
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I want graphs galore. It doesn't matter that I know I'm ahead by a mile - I still love seeing it on 20 different types of graph.
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- MKL ... "And a sun that doesn't set but settles" - Augie March
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Definately keep it!
""It doesn't matter that I know I'm ahead by a mile - I still love seeing it on 20 different types of graph."" Couldn't agree more.
Mind you the best way to see this is the map with terrortory changing colours as in Civ I and SMAC. For me that was the best 'Diagnostic' of your civ status. You really feel the ebb and flow of the game.
The demographics screen was a great thing too.
Pingu:Comment
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We would have some "culture" graphics, probably.
As we know, thanks to recent "leak of info", we'll have different culture level according to "kind of city improvement we build" and "how early we build it".
Just mentioning someone:
Militar (city walls, barrack)
Trade (marketplace, bank)
Religion (temple, cathedral)
Entertainment (colosseum, theatre)
Health (acqueduct, sewer system, hospital)
Food (granary)
Science (library, university)
Of course we should have more dynamic events influencing game, too: how many wars we fighted, how much we spend in research or luxury...
May be thematic maps will be added to usual "bars and lines", to better show cultural dominance over the world.
Others graphs options will be welcome, while a feature to export data to MS Excel sheets seems a bit too much
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Admiral Naismith AKA mcostant"We are reducing all the complexity of billions of people over 6000 years into a Civ box. Let me say: That's not only a PkZip effort....it's a real 'picture to Jpeg heavy loss in translation' kind of thing."
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Definetally a graph for every stat that you can compair with the other civs 
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I don't have much to say 'cause I won't be here long.Comment
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Keep it!!!
If anything, I want more graphs and statistics.Hasdrubal's Home.
Ceterum censeo Romam esse delendam.Comment
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At the risk of being the odd one out here... NO, throw it away! I've managed to win at Deity level without ever looking at the demographics screen. Waste of space. Just enjoy the game!
Ilkuul
Every time you win, remember: "The first shall be last".
Every time you lose, remember: "The last shall be first".Comment
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I for one like the Demographics list in Civ2 and have used it many times while I play the game - So I hope they keep it or have something similiar to it in Civ3.
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Originally posted by Ilkuul on 04-04-2001 04:15 PM
At the risk of being the odd one out here... NO, throw it away! I've managed to win at Deity level without ever looking at the demographics screen. Waste of space. Just enjoy the game!
Ack! He's not conforming with the majority!
In my view, the screen is not so much something you "need" to win, but rather something that helps those of us who play Civ for fun to get a feel of our empires. In addition, such a screen would help if the idea of "evolving civilization" was used (i.e. lots of temples and cathedrals at the start would mold your culture into a very religious one, etc.).
It's not really a waste of space, since it has no real graphics and uses very simple algorithms to compute. We're talking probably less that .1% of the game, so there is no reason to trash it.
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- Cyclotron7, "that supplementary resource fanatic"Lime roots and treachery!
"Eventually you're left with a bunch of unmemorable posters like Cyclotron, pretending that they actually know anything about who they're debating pointless crap with." - Drake TungstenComment
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Cyclotron makes a good point. The dempgraphics screen adds to the overall civ experience...it's not really a tool you employ to win the game!!If the voices in my head paid rent, I'd be a very rich manComment
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Let me make my opinion simple and clear -- keep the demographics window! Hell -- improve on it!
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