Poll: City radius

[Tiberius]

Do you want to see expanding city radius in Civ3?

1. Yes, I love it! Give me expanding, huge cities with 4 or 5 circles radius!

2. I like it, but don't let cities grow beyond 3 circles radius.

3. I like the idea of expanding city radius, but 2 circles radius (Civ2) is enough.

4. No! I like the Civ2 style fixed city radius (2 circles).

5. I don't know / I don't care.

Note: city radius = the circles around a city, without the city itself

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[Tiberius]

OK, my vote goes for 2: expanding city radius, but no more than 3 circles.

In the same time, I'd like to see benefits for big cities, like trade/tourism/production/science bonuses, but some negative effects too: overcrowding, crime, deseases, etc.

The point is, well managed big cities should become important region centers, not "only" cities.

[Grumbold]

2. But expanding only from 1 to 2 square radius.

I already believe the civ "cities" are just approximate representations of the regional population and infrastructure. The one big city could in fact be two, three or even more urban centres.

[bagdar]

2

and please a solution for large cities shrinking and growing again at the later stages of the game.

[Henrik]

A mix of 1 and 2. the max would be four circles (one more than in civ2). But only for extremly big cities.
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[jglidewell]

1. yes yes yes

This is crucial as to when I buy the Game. If the Map is dynamic then I will buy right at release 48$ but if not will wait a year and buy at the discount 9-18$

The Regiaonal ides put forth thus far should be included.

[Nikolai]

4. I like the one as it is today, but I haven't tried the CTP2 one. therefor I don't want to hold one over another.

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[wittlich]

I have to place my ballot for #2. I like expanding city radii, as long as it doesn't get carried away

[Trachmir]

Actually I want the cities to expand from 1 tile to 2, 3, 4, etc. And as the actual city expands, the radius would also increase... but I think the radius should only be one square.

[monolith94]

A reaching area of four or five would be absolutely ridiculous, not to mention ludicrous. Instead of having Paris, or Lyons, you would only have one city, France!

I say the max should be set at a radius of 2, at absolute MAX. Growing from 1 to 2 is fine with me though, though I may learn to eat those words.

[AzNtoccata]

I got an idea, how about increasing radius as population increase? of course there is a limit...

[Tiberius]

I added a new nr. 3, so I will count your votes according to the new numbering.

Results so far:

Choice.....Votes
1.............1
2.............4
3.............2
4.............0
5.............1

Henrik: cities in Civ2 have 2 circles radius. (without the city itself, of course; sorry if I didn't mention that)
Trachmir: think about how big is actually a map tile in Civ2, if you make the right scaling ...
AzNtoccata: What do you mean? The city radius is supposed to grow when the population reaches a certain limit (for ex: city size 1-8: 1 circle, 9-16: 2 circles, 17-24: 3 circles, etc)
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[ContradictioN]

1 of course, thats the way it is.

What? are you pussies too scared to tackle real life problems?

[Stuff2]

I vote for number 4

[Adm.Naismith]

I know CTP2 players complained about city radius problems, but I don't know why (someone can give me a hint?) and I searched in CTP2 forum without a succesful result.

So far, I vote for 2) Expanding, but don't let cities grow beyond 3 circles radius (starting with a radius of 1).

I would like to consider City radius not exactly a circle: I mean, if a city is near unpassable mountains it must limit the radius in that direction, as 1 square limit in sea shore direction (large fishing far from coast is unrealistic until proper tech advance, i.e. port facility).

I don't think this should be balanced from a radius stretch into "permitted" directions, i.e. having coastal city area growing more square following the coast line, but I'm open to different opinion.

It's more complex than usual circle method, but it could be more interesting, at least if some kind of CTP2 "public works" will be implemented.

Of course the player should have some "point cursor here to show city usable area" function, to check before moving a settler to found a new city.

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