Idea for the future: Unit attrition

[chairmanmeow]

especially when its hot, because then the tanks sometimes leave treadmarks down the street, which means they must tear the whole thing up... because Wisconsin is full of smart people...

Apparently you really don't like Wisconsin. That's ok, I don't like Maryland, either.

I think that if attrition were to be put into Civ 3, then the units would need more hit points, since there are only 4 for a veteran, attrition would have significant effect.

[bobbo008]

when the Packers lose a playoff game, it affects everyone, not just football fans.

[Trifna]

Originally posted by chairmanmeow


Apparently you really don't like Wisconsin. That's ok, I don't like Maryland, either.

I think that if attrition were to be put into Civ 3, then the units would need more hit points, since there are only 4 for a veteran, attrition would have significant effect.

Or maybe there could be three "troop qualificatives":
- Number of troops
- Permanent quality of troops (elite, veteran...)
- Temporary effects on troops (moral, attrition...)


THIS would make some sense when we're talking about troops! Alot more than horses that lose 4/5 of their men and then resurrects out of no where at cost = 0.


(Boy, I like what I've just written )

[bobbo008]

they're should be a healing cost.

[Trifna]

Well there would not be these points, so healing cost would simply be the cost to build an army, as in other games where you buy bunch of units in an army. In some way, it would be like buying units by bunch of 4 divisions of a hundred let's say (stacked by 100 units or so...). You lose then, they don't revive but you can send some refresh. As in reality...

[VladTepes]

Attrition from lack of supply should be fractions of strength. Have a "experience" bar (vet, elite etc) and also a "supply" bar. Both of these would factor in when in combat. Also, diffrent technologies would affect supply in different ways - ancient armies are more damaging to terrain due to their foraging, modern armies have ration kits, so they don't damage farms but require a supply line.

The advance of Logistics would increase strength, but you must have a Supply Depot within a certain number of squares of the unit or begin losing Strength due to the troops being poorly supplied.

[Trifna]

It's exactly like I said. I would propose, instead of just repeating again and again as threads do, to to build something coherent. Maybe by starting from the little post I wrote (I think it would work with these "troop qualificatives"):

Or maybe there could be three "troop qualificatives":
- Number of troops
- Permanent quality of troops (elite, veteran...)
- Temporary effects on troops (moral, attrition...)


THIS would make some sense when we're talking about troops! Alot more than horses that lose 4/5 of their men and then resurrects out of no where at cost = 0.

Also, don't be shy to say a word on the thread I've started (For a coherent colony system), it's another thing I really see as incoherent and that should be better in Civ.

Also, VladTepes, I looooooove your signature

[justjake73]

It's been floating around the Internet for a while. The complete "version":

"Three OS's from corporate-kings in their towers of glass,
Seven from valley-lords where orchards used to grow,
Nine from dotcoms doomed to die,
One from the Dark Lord on his dark throne
In the Land of Redmond where the Shadows lie.
One OS to rule them all, One OS to find them,
One OS to bring them all and in the darkness bind them,
In the Land of Redmond where the Shadows lie."



First time I read it, I thought it was absolutely brilliant.

[Kingof the Apes]

[Optimizer]

Back to topic:
Unit attrition could be decreased by technology advances like Navigation and Medicine, or by Home Ground Training.

Moderators, could you please move this thread to the Civ General/Future forum?

[Willem]

Originally posted by WarpStorm
Then there should be unhappiness and food loss any time a unit goes through a city's tiles.

Unless the city has a Barracks. It provides the unit with the supplies it needs.

[Trifna]

Originally posted by Optimizer
Back to topic:
Unit attrition could be decreased by technology advances like Navigation and Medicine, or by Home Ground Training.

Moderators, could you please move this thread to the Civ General/Future forum?

I agree it could be moved to the Future forum. Didn't knew its existence when I started this...

[Optimizer]

Originally posted by Trifna
Didn't knew its existence when I started this...

That's simply because the forum started a few days ago.

[Trifna]

Years?... Damn, there must be 99% marijuana in the air to give me such a distorted sense of time...

[Optimizer]

Thanks for the point. I changed "years" to "days".