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  • #1

    ripoff galley

    i know this is stupid and short, and i dont care if anyone replies:

    a Roman galley just went over 10 turns (I think it's around 15 actually) in nothing but ocean squares. damn ripoff AI.
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  • #2
    Yours can also, IF you have the tech to do so.

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    • #3
      Edit ocean as impassable to wheeled, flag galleys as wheeled and galleys can't move on ocean.

      Makes it tougher if you get an isolated start and restricts suicide runs but does slow down contact on continents maps and stops the AI on the other side of the map turning up on your doorstep with an archer and a warrior and declaring war.
      Never give an AI an even break.

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      • #4
        I wouldnt make this change, since if you start on an island it could potentially kill any chance for you to colonize and/or meet other civs until mid-late middle ages, even with the lighthouse. As far the "landing and declaring war" part, if you are concerned about an archer and warrior attacking you, then you are not defending your cities well enough.
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        • #5
          I'm not concerned, last time it happened I was just building my first Sipahi units and Ragnar gave me the opportunity to trigger my GA. I do play with this mod and am happy with it but it is a personal choice.
          Never give an AI an even break.

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          • #6
            iirc, in one of the chats with firaxis, one firaxean mentioned that the AI NEVER ends his turn on a tile which potentially kills the unit --> no suicide runs.

            and i havn't experience the computer cheating with this either. probably he was on sea squares and had the great lighthouse...
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            • #7
              Not if all your opponents have cavarly while you're devending your cities with warriors
              I will never understand why some people on Apolyton find you so clever. You're predictable, mundane, and a google-whore and the most observant of us all know this. Your battles of "wits" rely on obscurity and whenever you fail to find something sufficiently obscure, like this, you just act like a 5 year old. Congratulations, molly.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by CerberusIV
                Edit ocean as impassable to wheeled, flag galleys as wheeled and galleys can't move on ocean.
                Damn you beat me to it! That can only be done if he has PTW of course. I've done the same to Ironclads, it makes Frigates useful for longer.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Willem


                  Damn you beat me to it! That can only be done if he has PTW of course. I've done the same to Ironclads, it makes Frigates useful for longer.
                  Credit where credit is due, I got this idea from another post, presumably one of yours.
                  Never give an AI an even break.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by CerberusIV


                    Credit where credit is due, I got this idea from another post, presumably one of yours.
                    Cool. Yes I did post something about that awhile back. A handy flag that "Wheeled" attribute!

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                    • #11
                      "and i havn't experience the computer cheating with this either. probably he was on sea squares and had the great lighthouse..."

                      :| I followed him...

                      If I must prove, it's on the Europe map, huge. He just dropped off a settler and a warrior in ICELAND. Rome is, correctly, in Italy. Going from Ireland to Iceland is at least 10 turns on this map (and there is no x-axis-wrapping).
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by bobbo008
                        "and i havn't experience the computer cheating with this either. probably he was on sea squares and had the great lighthouse..."

                        :| I followed him...

                        If I must prove, it's on the Europe map, huge. He just dropped off a settler and a warrior in ICELAND. Rome is, correctly, in Italy. Going from Ireland to Iceland is at least 10 turns on this map (and there is no x-axis-wrapping).

                        Is it possible that the AI has Navigation? Also iceland is not far from Norway, how far did you follow this galley?
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                        • #13
                          Another AI Cheat

                          Originally posted by bobbo008
                          i know this is stupid and short, and i dont care if anyone replies:

                          a Roman galley just went over 10 turns (I think it's around 15 actually) in nothing but ocean squares. damn ripoff AI.
                          We've heard this one before. I once saw that, and I saw fleets of infantry-carrying AI galleys sailing on ocean tiles heading towards a northern town of mine they had no way of even knowing existed! What a crock.

                          I once spotted a German galley deep in the ocean. I exchanged maps with Berlin, and it had in reality been magically teleported across thousands of miles as there was blackness on the German maps between their homewaters and where I found that galley.

                          Yet more AI cheats.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Mad Bomber



                            Is it possible that the AI has Navigation? Also iceland is not far from Norway, how far did you follow this galley?
                            It didn't have anything when I saw my ocean-going galley. Shouldn't make a difference as galleys didn't sail on oceans. (Viking longboats were not galleys).

                            Stop making excuses for this cheating AI.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Coracle


                              Stop making excuses for this cheating AI.
                              Stop finding pathetic excuses for trashing the game! You carried on ad nauseum about culture flippping, Firaxis provided a preference to turn it off. You've also made it clear you don't like Galleys crossing Oceans! Yet even when they provide the means to prevent this, you still complain!

                              Why? Do you not have a real life to live, that you feel compelled to come here and make yourself look like an idiot? The only reason I even noticed your post was because the site didn't recognize my cookie, I had to logon manually. I'm sure by now 99% of the people that come to this site have you on their ignore list. So why do you still bother?

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