AI dumbness over Right of Passage

[bongo]

You are not alone. There seems to be a limit to how many units an AI can have in your territory before the option to tell him to leave is replaced with 'get out or declare war'. I'd really like to make that choice myself. I would also like to tell someone which I have a ROP with to 'please step aside, your rifleman are sitting on top of a polluted square my workers wants to clean up', something like that.

[Willem]

Originally posted by Lung
You've got it good!

When i contact other civs to either negotiate a ROP agreement or demand them to get out of my territory, i usually find i don't even get those options! The Aztecs are crawling all over my civ, and yet i have no opportunity to tell them to bugger off! This is absurd!

Am i the only one with these problems??

If you have units crawling all of your empire, it probably means that your military is weak in comparison. If you're strong, they won't come around, since they won't want to risk a war they might lose. Having a stack near your border with them helps as well.

[bongo]

The will often declare war even if they are so small that you can roll over them in a few turns

[PrinceBimz]

I certainly won't say the AI is dumb over RoP but rather disrespectful and for a reason. I notice in early game the AI moves settlers with an escort (warrior, spearmen, archer, etc.) through my territory at will. I don't like this and this has started many wars. If I do that to them they get pissed but they do it to me at will and sometimes I get pissed too. This AI is sneaky and dirty with it too, they will plant a city right in the middle of your territory on just one area where your territor don't cover. This makes me hot! Most of the time a settler and escort is not too much of a threat and not worth starting a war over but it still angers me.

Now when the AI is at war with another AI and if it sends units through my territory without RoP that means I better keep my mouth shut. Reason being is chances are they can beat the heck out of me and don't give a heck about what I say. They know they can destroy my nation to the ground so they are just daring me to say something so they can kick my butt too. So they figure why sign a RoP to let me go through their territory when they can just move through mine at will and have theirs free? They know I am weaker and can't defeat them so for the AI its a very smart thing to do. I can't just go in there and do a RoP rape to them now because they won't sign a RoP.

[Lung]

Originally posted by Willem


If you have units crawling all of your empire, it probably means that your military is weak in comparison. If you're strong, they won't come around, since they won't want to risk a war they might lose. Having a stack near your border with them helps as well.

It certainly shouldn't be! When i see my military advisor, he says they don't have any units, even though numerous units repeatedly cross my territory. As for me being weaker, i'd be very surprised, considering how strong my military is, and how small and primitive they are.

However, i will try the intimidatory approach. At the very least, it should prompt them to demand a mutual withdrawal of troops. If they demand a withdrawal without me getting an option to demand the same, i'll be pissed off!

[Willem]

Originally posted by Lung


It certainly shouldn't be! When i see my military advisor, he says they don't have any units, even though numerous units repeatedly cross my territory. As for me being weaker, i'd be very surprised, considering how strong my military is, and how small and primitive they are.

However, i will try the intimidatory approach. At the very least, it should prompt them to demand a mutual withdrawal of troops. If they demand a withdrawal without me getting an option to demand the same, i'll be pissed off!

You might also try creating a hidden nationality unit or two. That way you can destroy any stragglers without actually going to war. Having a few of those near borders seems to do a very nice job of scaring them away as well. I seldom get Settlers in the area when they're around.

[bobbo008]

"You might also try creating a hidden nationality unit or two. That way you can destroy any stragglers without actually going to war. Having a few of those near borders seems to do a very nice job of scaring them away as well. I seldom get Settlers in the area when they're around."

you mean creating them in the editor or downloading them? there should be land privateer-type units. basically mercenaries... like Hungarian Hussars, which were still "around" during the Korean War and have been since the Middle Ages (then fast, lightly-armored, brightly-colored horsemen)

[Willem]

Originally posted by bobbo008
"You might also try creating a hidden nationality unit or two. That way you can destroy any stragglers without actually going to war. Having a few of those near borders seems to do a very nice job of scaring them away as well. I seldom get Settlers in the area when they're around."

you mean creating them in the editor or downloading them? there should be land privateer-type units. basically mercenaries... like Hungarian Hussars, which were still "around" during the Korean War and have been since the Middle Ages (then fast, lightly-armored, brightly-colored horsemen)

Well both actually. I downloaded the graphics, but had to create them in the editor. I have several of them in fact, for different time periods. I like having them in the game, they can throw in a nice twist, especially since the AI sometimes likes to use them too.

[bobbo008]

too bad they didn't put in units like that, the privateers feel so limited sometimes, especially without bombardment... its not like in reality you couldn't upgrade the ships...