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  • #16
    I’m going to repeat a few things which others before me have said here.
    It’ll only make the call louder.
    • GREATEST FEAR
    • the game, like being somesort of sci-fi-game, running halfway into the future like in CTP
    • no real challenging AI
    • a UI (a bit like in CTP) that’ll make you do click, click, click, click, click, click, click, before getting anywhere
    • beautiful graphics getting in the way of simple & smooth playability (a bit like in CTP)
    • little customization
    • GREATEST HOPES
    • NO SCI-FI NONSENSE LIKE IN CTP (those who want that, buy SMAC or CTP !!!!!)
    • a AI that will turn me into minced meat
    • basically the same clear and convenient UI as in CIV-II improved with new handy features
    • beautiful graphics combined with simple & smooth playability
    • complete customization
    • a complex, with several "intertwining" branches, tech-tree with lots of new units, city-improvements, things adding to the concepts of governments, diplomacy, waging war, etc.
    • structural setbacks

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    • #17
      Hope
      Opening the box and finding the best game I have ever played.

      Fear
      Opening the box and finding an overprised frisbee (like CtP)
      Grrr | Pieter Lootsma | Hamilton, NZ | grrr@orcon.net.nz
      Waikato University, Hamilton.

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      • #18
        Greatest Hope A totally engrossing game, which keeps me saying "just one more turn", with AI enemies actually seeming like you are playing multiplayer against humans (at least in diplomacy). A emphasis on peaceful solutions.

        Greatest Fear CtP.... ugh...
        “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
        - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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        • #19
          Greatest fears :

          unbalanced game with poor AI (Have I read this very same thing somewhere previous to this).
          No future tech.

          Greatest Hopes :

          A great multifaceted game, with lots of interesting advances, wonders and improvements. Ages that don't wiz by in a microsecond (Ctp) but rather ages where it is actually possible to build an army of units and move them against the enemy before they are obsolete (Wes' Medieval mod for Ctp).
          You know the question, just as I did.
          What is the matrix?

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          • #20
            Greatest Fear:
            That my own expectations are over the edge. I mean that I expect so much that it is totally impossible to reach what I demand/expect. (And if nothing happens to me bofore the release, this will be my case... Somebody, please drop my expectations down to reasonable standards soon)

            Oh, no refugee unit


            Greatest Hope:
            That I discover the reason for Civ3 being so good is the "JUST ONE IDEA…" that made it to the game. I want to be able to proudly say that CivIII is the greatest game ever. (Yin26 + many ohers have worked so hard for free ... I want to be able to see that the work was worth it)
            [This message has been edited by Jeje2 (edited January 11, 2001).]

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            • #21
              Greatest hope: It will feel like I am struggling to steer a nation to greatness through natural disaster, military threats and political opposition.

              Greatest fear: That I will be endlessly min/maxing individual cities and telling peaceful opponents to get their frikkin diplomats off key sites in my transport network only to see them come back a couple of turns later. There will be no sense of national identity. Each turn will require a hundred clicks just to ensure that there was nothing of any significance that needed doing.
              To doubt everything or to believe everything are two equally convenient solutions; both dispense with the necessity of reflection.
              H.Poincaré

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              • #22
                Greatest Fear: System expectations will be so high that it won't work on my computer! [In fact I don't think Sid Meier and his team will produce anything that I'll *really* dislike.]

                Greatest Hope: There will be limitless strategies to apply, and countless possibilities to accomplish with your Civilization. Trade, Thought, and maybe even Art (something beyond J.S. Bach's Cathedral and Michaelangelo's Chapel is what I imagine) is intergrated into the game without becoming ridicilous. Each new game -after we've made enough acquintance with Civ3 of course- will be full of completely new excitements, not just an attempt to increase one's civ score. After all, the concept of "CIVILIZATION" is what humans are all about, the possibilities are bound to be endless... The thing is to present them in a game that's fun to play. One more thing: some of the features of the glorious Civ I that were missing in Civ II are back... (not just the replay)
                'We note that your primitive civil-^
                ization has not even discovered^
                $RPLC1. Do you care^
                to exchange knowledge with us?'^
                _'No, we do not need $RPLC1.'^
                _'OK, let's exchange knowledge.'

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                • #23
                  Well, my greatest fear is that Civ3 will be a dumb, crappy game that I will have wasted 50 bucks for. And my greatest hope is that I'll love it, and it will keep me dazzled for months.

                  But of course, that is in way too general terms, so, I'll go deeper:

                  MY greatest fear is that I'll be stuck with same old stupid AI, diplomacy, and very unrealistic stuff, including: combat, units, nuclear warfare, etc.

                  And my greatist hope, is that everything will be better: combat, graphics design, units, customizability, AI, and diplomacy.

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                  • #24
                    greatest fear: everything written before + unique smac like civs that intrude and entrap my creativity.

                    greatest hope:
                    none of my fears come true and I will love this game!

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                    • #25
                      Greatest fear: stupid environment (by environment I mean the feeling I get playing it, Civ1 had it to the max, for Civ2 it was very high, for SMAC (despite the story which I thought was good and put SMAC above most games) this was its greatest weakness and the only reason I like Civ2 better (Civ2 is the best only because its advancements go beyond Civ1's great environment)), for CTP this was very low and oe of the main reasons why it stank): this includes predetermined civs, unreasonable 'hero' characters, stupid units, bad UI, bad feeling to the game I guess, it is hard to explain

                      Greatest hope: Firaxis will do it one more time (I only own SMAC but would pick up the others if I saw them)

                      Jon Miller
                      Jon Miller-
                      I AM.CANADIAN
                      GENERATION 35: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment.

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                      • #26
                        Greatest fear: Civ3 is RTS!
                        *grumbles about work*

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                        • #27
                          Good idea for a posting, straight to the point.

                          My greatest fear: Civs I and II made me feel as if I were re-writing the history books. A felt I was up there with the great leaders shaping the future of humanity, and callously waging some of it's most bloody wars! SMAC, Test of Time, and Call to Power all just made me feel like I was playing a computer game. Despite the many superb and relevant suggestions made by the members of this site, I think the greatest threat to Civ III is that it simply won't 'feel' like Civ any more.

                          My greatest hope: Civ I changed the face of computer gaming forever. Civ II was logical progression, more units, better diplomacy, AI, Etc. etc. My greatest hope is that Civ III will follow this trend, improving, reforming, revamping...but still being, the Civ that we know and love.

                          All this self-indulgent tosh is all very well, but there is a point here - The developers need to summon the original Civ 'spirit' or all is lost.

                          A fact, spinning alone through infospace. Without help, it could be lost forever, because only THIS can turn it into a News.

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                          • #28
                            Greatest fear - when i first play the game i dont recognise it as a civ game...

                            Greatest hope - unbeatable ai

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                            • #29
                              quote:

                              Originally posted by Jon Miller on 01-12-2001 05:49 PM
                              by environment I mean the feeling I get playing it, Civ1 had it to the max, for Civ2 it was very high, for SMAC (despite the story which I thought was good and put SMAC above most games) this was its greatest weakness and the only reason I like Civ2 better (Civ2 is the best only because its advancements go beyond Civ1's great environment



                              I know exactly what you mean... Why don't you visit the "civ I features I'd like to see in Civ III" thread? Civ I's unique atmosphere is peerless, not challanged even by Civ II.

                              [This message has been edited by bagdar (edited January 13, 2001).]
                              'We note that your primitive civil-^
                              ization has not even discovered^
                              $RPLC1. Do you care^
                              to exchange knowledge with us?'^
                              _'No, we do not need $RPLC1.'^
                              _'OK, let's exchange knowledge.'

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                              • #30
                                I agree with all of ye and most with EnochF and JosefGiven !!!

                                back to the roots with the techtree!
                                i wanna realize the manhatten project.
                                and smooth playable MP games with many civs which dont take too much time to solve it!

                                go SID go, i believe in u
                                [This message has been edited by crazBOBy (edited January 14, 2001).]

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