ever had to watch a GL die?

[ruby_maser]

saddest sight I ever did see...

in my current game (monarch level, standard map, continents) it boiled down to 4 civs left. I had a continent and smaller sister continent all to myself. The French had their own, and Arabia was the dominate civ on its own with a vassalized Zulu nation just taking up space.

I consider myself a warmonger but found myself in that in-between period when defense (infantry namely) is dominant over cavalry prior to better offensive units in the mid-industrial age. Well, Arabia surprised me with a war out of the blue, and I felt a massive offensive invasion of their continent at that point just wasn't feasible. However, I did decide to offload several small excess forces (4 in each) of veteran infantry at different locations in their nearby homeland to preoccupy their offensive forces and, hopefully, start softening up their mainland for the inevitable massive invasion to come.

Anyway, they had a large army to say the least. I offloaded my infantry into some forested tundra without any real intention of getting very far but planning to take more of them out with me. Next turn, I watched as they threw guerillas, cavalry, infantry at me seemingly without end, and to my surprise, I generated a Great Leader from that. But I had to sit there and watch them eventually wear down my small force with shear numbers and eventually take out my defenseless leader before I ever had the chance to ferry him away to my homeland. Sad...

Anyone else every had this happen to them?

[Carver]

Yes, a couple times. When a GL is generated on another continent or on an unroaded tile, he can have a short life. Depending on the circumstances ( Great Wonder race?) it might be worth a peace treaty to save him. ...especially if you don't care about your rep and just declare war again after a couple turns

[Jaybe]

A GL generated while defending usually dies young in my experience.

[asleepathewheel]

Yeah, I've lost a couple.

Luckily I've killed far more than ive lost

[Willem]

Re: ever had to watch a GL die?

Originally posted by ruby_maser

Anyone else every had this happen to them?

I lost the very first one I ever had, in just a couple of turns. I didn't really know what I had, and I figured they'd be a lot tougher than they are.

[alva]

You can see when the AI get's a GL too btw,
the screen pauzes/glitches for just a fraction of a second.
That's when you know, you have to kill all the units on that tile

[Cyclotron]

Yep, it's a terrible thing... Poor Khufu never had a chance, being created by a war chariot that was then counterattacked by 2 archers. *sob*

I have actally never killed, or even seen an AI GL, although I have seen armies. I guess most of their elites are used elsewhere, as I never see AI elites very often either. Of course, that's what you get with early war...

[WarpStorm]

No, but KittenOfChaos did on the turn it was created in one of my MP games

[Adm.Naismith]

Originally posted by Jaybe
A GL generated while defending usually dies young in my experience.

Sadly true, for me too

I had a very bad game, one when you can't access any iron and miss any real chance to defend yourself from bloody civs near your...

I've lost three GL in a turn of eroic but useless defense. I can't have the control to save them in any way. I saved the game just for recording, then I quitted it in angry frustation.

Then I went to beat my children with a cub (just kidding none was harm if not my ego).

[Mad Bomber]

I too have had a few great leaders die before their time, usually due to my stupidity however. (sure go ahead unesorted in enemy territory Patton, the Egyptians wouldn't dare to....) It's the saddest feeling you can have from a Civ 3 experience (unless you count the end screen in which it says Abe Lincoln will return!)

[vmxa1]

This is quite common on leaders that are created on defense. The AI keeps coming and often over runs you and good bye leader.

[mrmitchell]

I've only lost one leader, and a painful loss it was...

However later in that war the AI got a GL right next to one of my cities, and you know what I did

[Theseus]

Yeah, cheer yourself up with the alternative... hack down a SoD, and take a quick screeshot of the dying AI GL!

[Dr. A. Cula]

I lost GLs in only one game, but it was enough to last me a life time.
This scenario happend several times during the same war (I was playing the Germans and fighting the Japanese):
I couldn't wait to get transporters, so I loaded 4 or 5 galleons with Cavalry and sent them to an island the Japanese occupied (it was next to their main continent). I would land 4 Cavalries, take one Japanese city, then fortify to wait for reinforcements. The Japanese would counter-attack with hordes of Samurais and every single time, my last surviving Cavalry, down to its last health point, would generate a GL. Of course, the Japanese had one more Samurai and reinforcements were only 1 or 2 turns away. I still can't believe this happened!
Also, this was the only time I got more than 3 GLs during an entire game.

[bongo]

Ouch!

I'v lost only one but taken 3-5. One of them with a cultural flip. I was very close to dislocating my jaw by laughing

I managed to save a GL yesterday against nasty odds. I sent a lone horseman into russian territory to hunt for germans. Two kills later I had a GL and a badly wounded horseman which were killed the next turn. My poor GL had to play hide and seek around moscow while the germans were running in every direction. Finally I had him meet with a strong escort so I could get him home. The strangest part is that the germans never did any serious attempt to take him.