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  • #46
    Stop the madness!!

    I think there's far less difference between the two systems than everyone seems to think there is. For those who do a lot of professional programming for businesses etc., PCs are nice, the new .NET stuff seems to be very useful. For people who need scream machines to play every game in every genre that ever comes out, again PCs are better (though these gaming PCs, like the alienware stuff, seem outrageously expensive for machines whose purpose is only recreation... as I think someone mentioned above, these days you're better off going to the console market unless you're very rich.) On the other hand, for people who do anything visual, macs seem to be the way to go.

    But all that's neither here nor there. What do most people use computers for? Word processing, web browsing, email/instant messaging, amateur digital photography/video, a few games, and music. Fact is, one platform is as good as another. Almost everything's compatible, they can share networks, the prices are similar (I've been shopping, trust me).

    For what it's worth, the decision's been made. I made the switch, and am awaiting delivery of a phat new powerbook that was actually cheaper, feature for feature and pound for pound, than an equivalent windows machine.

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    • #47
      congratulations! no matter what anyone else has said, I personally think you will be happy with the switch. did you get the newest revision? I have the last revision of the powerbook (800 mHz) and I love it, I actually use it more than my dual 1gig desktop. There is just something about sitting on the couch and wirelessly surfing the high-speed internet that I can't get enough of. anyhow, welcome to the mac-side. Let there be no mistake, people get heated about this issue, I don't really know why. don't let it get to you.

      lateralis
      "As far as I'm concerned, humans have yet to come up with a belief worth believing." --George Carlin

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      • #48
        Thanks Lateralis. I think it's kinda funny how people are so brand-loyal. Even people who walk around saying they hate microsoft generally refuse to walk the walk, as it were. I was one of those people: admiring of Apple's products and direction, but mindlessly buying windows machines when I needed a computer. Of course, all the ads and rhetoric aside, I think now really is the perfect time to "switch." Everything seems to be compatible with everything nowadays. My current (soon to be ex-) computer runs winXP, and I gotta say, for all that I dislike Microsoft and am leaving it behind, it's a really great operating system. If I hadn't found the deal I got, and liked a PC brand's hardware (I was an inch from buying a Fusjitsu laptop... those are beautiful), I would gladly have bought another PC.

        I got an 800 mhz one like yours, with all the bells and whistles. Since Apple update the processors to 867 mhz and 1 ghz, a local store had a ridiculous sale to clear their inventory of the old ones. I did exhaustive research before deciding, and it seems that the biggest improvements were implemented in the jump from the 667mhz to the 800 mhz ones. So I feel totally comfortable buying "obsolete" hardware. Heck, I was actually going to buy an ibook--this just turned out to be the same price!

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        • #49
          Alright, kewl. Have fun with your new apple.....

          And remember, no matter what system your on......Don't buy 4 video cards Its just not worth it.
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          Long live teh paranoia smiley!

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          • #50
            regarding those awful mac ads...

            "A civilization unable to tell the difference between illusion and reality is usually believed to be at the tail end of its existence" - John Ralston Saul

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            • #51
              Originally posted by djafrot
              regarding those awful mac ads...

              http://members.cox.net/tauntaun/SW/Sith.swf
              I'm a Mac guy through and through, but that was funny!
              "It's a small world, afterall. It's a small, small world."
              -Personal notation after a quick game on a "tiny" map.

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              • #52
                ok im going to have to eat my words because civfanatics is reporting that PtW is indeed coming to mac! i hope that makes it easier to decide to switch!

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                • #53
                  I remember those days. I went to the store and everyone else decided to buy a PC, vs. Apple.

                  Let's see, my Apple IIC, last time started, after I knocked it, but then, it had not been started for over 17 years.

                  I just keep it around!

                  So far, I am not familiar with Mac's anymore, due to spending my time fixing the PC or updating drivers or buying something else for it, and keeping the OS working. But hey, every year and a half, Windows 98 will break down, but then, I just got Windows 2000 Professional, but then, a PC is something one buys to have an economy to fix those machines continually, a Mac is a computer, but since only a few want to support it, it leaves the PC to mess around with and continually upgrade patches with.

                  What was the advertisement for Windows XP -- more reliable - more secure.

                  300 updates to security in Windows XP alone, Mac - 4 updates.

                  Microsoft, never could program!
                  Apple does it too good!
                  But hey, I need money and a job!
                  Gates needs a few billion more!
                  Realtime - something that may occur, but my Apple IIC can do.
                  Simply put, I think the PC has moved back the industry to where it could be, by a few years at least. But hey, all need money and don't forget to all those PC customers spending their money at the local computer fixit store.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by djafrot
                    regarding those awful mac ads...

                    http://members.cox.net/tauntaun/SW/Sith.swf
                    Out-rageous!
                    I replayed it 4 times,
                    over and over again.

                    BTW, I'm another one of those Mac guys (with a Windozer to play PTW).

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by MiloMilo
                      Wow, lots of responses. For what it's worth, here's what I think about the whole thing:

                      Supporting underdogs is definitely one of my priorities. Right now I use a compaq with an AMD processor and winXP. Going to the mac platform would mean taking that support away from AMD, but it would also take money away from microsoft.
                      Reason enough to switch!!

                      Microsifts Windows Me OS was a load of garbage that froze my system requiring me to get it off, reinstall Windows 98 SE, search the Web for drivers, and then install them. A big pain they never told me I;d have to do on the box when I bought it. They also did not tell me that the manufacturer of my modem HAD NO driver for Me at all. Lousy MS "support" told me to experiment.

                      I have far more problems with MS than I do even with Civ 3 which I've knocked for a year. PC's have a lot more software, and are the business standard. If that doesn't bother you, go for a Mac.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by djafrot
                        regarding those awful mac ads...

                        http://members.cox.net/tauntaun/SW/Sith.swf
                        * A true libertarian is an anarchist in denial.
                        * If brute force isn't working you are not using enough.
                        * The difference between Genius and stupidity is that Genius has a limit.
                        * There are Lies, Damned Lies, and The Republican Party.

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                        • #57
                          Coracle, that explains alot about you.

                          I am both PC and Mac certified and service both. Macs are harder to fix, but they break less often. PCs are alot more flexible and if configured right rarely break down either. Really, take your pick, though I personally would never use a Mac if I had an alternitive. (Intuitive my @$$!)

                          BTW, BSOD are almost 100% hardware problems.
                          Sorry....nothing to say!

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