Question about conquest

[ManicStarSeed]

I have never been able to win via conquest. It always turns out to be domination. Logicly I do not see how you can ever win via conquest as domination will happen sooner.

Does anyone have any input on this?

Thanks
Mss

[Tuberski]

Re: Question about conquest

Originally posted by ManicStarSeed
I have never been able to win via conquest. It always turns out to be domination. Logicly I do not see how you can ever win via conquest as domination will happen sooner.

Does anyone have any input on this?

Thanks
Mss

You have to raze a lot of cities instead of occupying them, as long as you don't own the land, I.E. have it within your cultural border, it doesn't count as part of the 2/3 total land needed for domination.

If you want to conquest either:

A: turn of domination or,

B: raze enemy cities instead of occupy them.

[ManicStarSeed]

Thanks.. so it is 2/3s LAND MASS, not population. Good to know.
Thanks

I always play with all victory conditions on so that I have more to be concerned with. I usually set my own victory target by 10 AD as I like having to prevent various AI victories. I have found myself scurrying to start wars, give cities away to prolong wars, build the UN (always), eliminate cultural giants and so on just to keep from loosing.

I am like a cat with a ball of wool sometimes....

Thanks
Mss

[vmxa1]

Just turn of all conditions but conquest. This will make the game much longer and the bigger the map the more work for you. I once did that on a huge map, big mistake.

[alva]

Conquest = boring. Trust me on this one

Thanks.. so it is 2/3s LAND MASS, not population. Good to know.
Thanks

IIRC it does have something to do with population, not sure what though. I think it was 80% of total world population ?

[Tuberski]

Originally posted by alva848
Conquest = boring. Trust me on this one



IIRC it does have something to do with population, not sure what though. I think it was 80% of total world population ?

It has to require land area, population by it's self won't work.
You would never be able to acheive conquest if it was just population.

It may be a combination of the 2 though.

[alva]

that was what I meant: land + pop

[Catt]

Yes - it is 2/3 of land and 2/3 of pop. The only time a military win for me is via conquest instead of domination (assuming all conditions are turned on) is when I win in the ancient age or very early middle ages -- lots of size 1 cities get auto-razed, and others are far enough away to not covet.

Catt

[ManicStarSeed]

Originally posted by Catt
Yes - it is 2/3 of land and 2/3 of pop. The only time a military win for me is via conquest instead of domination (assuming all conditions are turned on) is when I win in the ancient age or very early middle ages -- lots of size 1 cities get auto-razed, and others are far enough away to not covet.

Catt

Thanks... I suspected as much. I am much more of a builder so often I am well into the middle/industrial ages before I begin my campaign. I never really raze cities unless it is strategicly necessary or have a settelers ready to reoccupy the area.


All this information helps. I will not exclude any victory conditions as that creates a "too-static" game for me. I just will remember .... RAZE EM for conquest.

It seems that domination is a real gift. It spares you from wasting another 10-15 hours of busy work after the game is mostly decided.

Mss

[CiverDan]

Domination was created to allow someone to win without finding every last city, which was a great idea IMHO. The only time it sucks is if your going for high score with all victory conditions on and you accidently go over the domination limit too early.

[Chemical Ollie]

Edit: Never write on forums when drunk!