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  • #31
    I never cheat. Unless of course I accidentaly slip and move something the wrong way. Of course, sometimes I don't even reload then (especially if the unit ends up on a mountain square where they could halt the enemy's advance).

    If I screw up, I like to try to devise some solution to the problem I've created. Nobody's perfect, so I don't expect myself to be making perfect decisions, or to be immune to stupid decisions.

    If anything, I'd restart. Since I don't have much time on my hands these days, I definitely don't have time to be playing out a game where I have no chance at all of victory of some sort (though of course I do want to need to think, be worked and be pushed hard to get to this victory).
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    • #32
      Re: How many times in a game do you cheat?

      Originally posted by georges bonbon
      In the beginning I wait a turn before taking a goody hut if the goody hut produces barbarians. (I prefer to wait for scientific advances).
      Maybe it's because I've only just moved up to Regent, but I almost prefer to get at least one Barbarian hut early...

      Why?
      It's an _almost_ guaranteed Elite Warrior. Not for the Leader potential, but for the extra 2 hitpoints.
      I read somewhere else that any unit that gets attacked more than once in a round automatically gets promoted, and my personal experience has seen that I always end up with an elite at the end of a 3 barb hut, because they always attack on the same round.

      Naturally, if I got a conscript warrior out of a hut, he's usually toast, but a regular, if he survives, is always Elite after that.

      I always seem to be able to trade for all the first rank techs anyway.


      But like I said, I'm on my first Regent game and am playing Small, hoping to finish sometime this year, so restarting for a tech at that point probably makes sense at higher levels.


      Oh, and my poll answer was "Never".
      "Just once, do me a favor, don't play Gray, don't even play Dark... I want to see Center-of-a-Black-Hole Side!!! " - Theseus nee rpodos

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      • #33
        Well I would go along if you, except for the idea of it occuring most of the time. First my warrior does not always win the fights. When he does, it will nearly always make at least vet and now and then make elite. This is if I am a mil civ. Before 129F, it seemed a bit higher odds, but I could be wrong on that part.

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        • #34
          I only reload if I hit the wrong button or foget to do something.

          I like the idea that someone mentioned above about partiy between the human and the AI. That means that the human shouldn't have to suffer because of forgetting to do something or hitting the wrong button, because the AI wouldn't do that. Following the same general principle, the human should never reload because of a tactical error or unpredictable random event, because the AI can't do that.
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          • #35
            Seems reasonable to JohnM2433. Unless you never have to go to the phone, table, toilet.

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            • #36
              I don't cheat often. Least not as far as reloading and such goes. If I declare war and I start losing big time, even if I've been in that particular game for a long long time and have invested a lot of my time in it, I'll just abandon it and start a new game. Needless to say, I don't finish many games.
              You're a man- you can be replaced.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by WarpStorm
                Because of this I may lose more often than some.
                What are your averages? How many times do you start a game and how many times can you finish it?

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by vondrack
                  OTOH, I quite often quit a game, if it is not going well for me...
                  Averages of "quite often"?

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Tuberski
                    The closest I come to cheating is reloading if planting a spy makes the other Civ declare war. That just annoys me for some reason.
                    I really wonder if we are the only ones.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by LordAzreal
                      If anything, I'd restart.
                      So what did you vote?

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by georges bonbon
                        Originally posted by vondrack
                        OTOH, I quite often quit a game, if it is not going well for me... but I never restart the same map. I simply start a new game...
                        Averages of "quite often"?
                        In the very beginning, it was like 9 out of 10 games... The AI kept beating me over and over on Regent... After learning a lot by trial and error and by following the discussions here, I moved to Monarch and now, I guess it is about every other or every third game that I quit because of not enjoying it as much as I would wish (it does not necessarily mean I am losing... just that the game is not as much fun as I would like... usually, it is because of the map... often, it is because I leave the game for two or three weeks and when I come back I can't remember what my plans once were... and the... "emotional tie" to that very game is broken... ).

                        Unfortunately, I don't have that much time to play Civ3 last months... I started my last game more than a month ago and it's still not finished... four-five hours a week is way too little...

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                        • #42
                          If you mean reloading when I do something stupid, way too often, I'm trying to quit.

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                          • #43
                            I don't cheat...much, but I do remember being drunk one day and getting ticked off by the constant state of warfare my empire was in. I just survived two wars only to get the Zulus and the Persians declare war on me and reduce me to a 1 city despot. I edited the game so I can get a nuclear bomb at the begining of the game. In the new game, the Zulus still declared war on me, but their religious leader will always talk about the evil demon that came from the sky and torched their previous capital.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Crostoneman
                              I don't cheat...much, but I do remember being drunk one day and getting ticked off by the constant state of warfare my empire was in.
                              Once I played Civ3 when I was completely drunk and I got involved in so many wars that my empire was in a constant state of rebellion. I kept looking at my burning cities and I said to myself: "hey you morons, we have to domitate... I mean donimate... er... dominate... hic!... the world".
                              I watched you fall. I think I pushed.

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                              • #45
                                I'll only reload if I "Know I'm going to lose the game", but I don't really consider this Cheating because I'm excepting that I lost, but going back to see if I can "Do it right". I think this is a good way to improve.

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