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  • #46
    Civ III is just like a drug. Once your addicted, it's hard to kick the habit, and there's always relapse possibilities. Calling Civ III less addictive is like calling cigarettes less addictive . Just my opinion.
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    • #47
      It is me again! I bought a new faster computer and it was interestring to check how fast civ3 would run on it. So I did start a game on Wed evening. I stayed until 3 am and on Thursday evening I played until 4 am.. I felt very tired at work the nex tday, and my back hurts big time... i can't even watch the time when i play civ! I am going to stop this relapse... i still want a timer..

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Explorer579
        I am going to stop this relapse... i still want a timer..
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        • #49
          lol funny thread. If it were not this addiction it would be another. And there are far worse addictions than playing a game. Chess shares similiar time adulation-and has had-for many many years. Hitler was reported to have played a few games of chess -then stopped- because he thought that it would take up all his time....
          the supposition that addiction is horrible-is sophmoric-
          alot of fat people in america-terrible on the health-but we go after smokers-laughable.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Shr3dZ
            There could be a couple very easy solutions:

            Have an in-game alarm clock- "You have now been playing for 6 hours straight, would you like to continue?"
            And also to follow-up with that, perhaps a notpad that pops-up so that you can jot down some ideas. The main reason I just hafta play 'one more turn' is b/c 'if I quit now, Ill forget what my specific plans were'. My train of thought must not be hindered!
            Good Idea, I always wanted that (not that I evered play more than 2hours staright)
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            • #51
              You know, Apolyton takes more of my time than actually playing the game.....
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              • #52
                ditto here

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                • #53
                  Lately it has been. Trying to stay up with some of the threads I've been posting to, writing an AAR for the AU208 course, and now the C3DG.

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                  • #54
                    Edit:

                    Don't let the game take over your life. If you're staying up till 3 and 4 AM playing a comp. game, then you need to STOP. Get rid of it and GO outside, hang at the beach, just relax and keep it real.
                    Last edited by Kaos XIII; June 16, 2003, 11:17.
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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by troytheface
                      Chess shares similiar time adulation-and has had-for many many years. .
                      I play chess too and it is way less addictive than civ3. First, I paly 1 hour of 5 minute games and then get bored. I can't withstand longer games. In addition, after one month of chess playing, I get enough for the next 6 months and won't have a "chess craving" for another 6 months. It is very controllable. The more I play chess, the more I get bored. With civ3, it is the opposite.

                      My problem with civ3 is that i would have a strategy to implement and it takes for ever to play it and verify it. When I play the smallest maps, it is much more controllable (because the games end faster), but still time flies by like magic. In chess, I watch the clock with every move! Hey, how about a civ3 timer!

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                      • #56
                        I just blew a 3 day weekend on Civ 3.
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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Kaos XIII
                          Sorry, I know this is serious. Don't let the game take over your life. If you're staying up till 3 and 4 AM playing a comp. game, then you need to STOP. Get rid of it and GO outside, hang at the beach, just relax and keep it real.
                          Oh it's real. Most days I only play an hour or so of civ, if at all. I was talking about spending more time on 'Poly lately than actually playing.

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                          • #58
                            Hi!

                            I think I have a solution. Buy one of those big, noisy, irrating alarm clocks. You know, the kind you feel like throwing across the room in the morning. Put it next to your computer, with the alarm. set to whenever, you know you should stop.

                            Also get a bunch of post-its, with notes all over your computer screen. They should say stuff like, "Listen to the Alarm", or "Stop before your life is ruined", maybe "Jesus loves you." Anyway, the control is up to you. Be a man, stand up to your addiction and compulsive behavior.

                            If you can't stop, then get rid of Civ. Yeah, I said it. Just my two cents.
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                            • #59
                              Re: Benefits as well as Risks

                              Originally posted by Explorer579
                              An Informed Consent is not only about risks. It should also lists benefits. As a praise to civ3, I like to say "civ3 relaxes me!" It makes me forget all the real world around me for a while.
                              To me, this is the best thing about Civ. There are few things other than Civ that I can do where I can totally put all the other troubles of life and the world out of my mind. Movies/TV/books just remind me of things... With that in mind Civ has definently been worth the $70.

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                              • #60
                                DSM-IV - DEFINITIONS OF SUBSTANCE ABUSE AND DEPENDENCE



                                DSM-1V-TR 2002 UPDATE



                                On the continuum of drug/alcohol use, abuse, dependence (addiction/alcoholism) the criteria for determining addiction to drugs or alcohol and/or alcoholism is clearly spelled out by the American Psychological Association in their Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-IV). The definition is key to intervention with drug/alcohol abusers as it classifies abusive drug/drinking behaviors and impacts on the type of treatment that medical insurance will cover. Reflected in the definition is the current research on brain chemistry. Important for us are the guidelines that are offered by these definitions so that we, in turn, can identify drug/alcohol (SUBSTANCE) abuse and drug/alcohol addiction (SUBSTANCE DEPENDENCE).



                                The term drug encompasses alcohol and, from this point forward, alcohol is included in the term “drug”. In turn, the DSM-IV uses the term “SUBSTANCE” to encompass drugs of abuse, medication or a toxin; for our purposes we shall limit the discussion to drugs of abuse. The DSM-IV-TR (text revision of 2002) continues using the same definitions as DSM-IV of 1996.



                                SUBSTANCE ABUSE:

                                One or more of the following:



                                FAILURE TO FULFILL MAJOR OBLIGATIONS
                                USE WHEN PHYSICALLY HAZARDOUS
                                RECURRENT LEGAL PROBLEMS
                                RECURRENT SOCIAL OR INTERPERSONAL PROBLEMS


                                With SUBSTANCE ABUSE the user has a choice: he/she uses in spite of illegal, unsafe consequences, or inappropriateness of the drinking/drugging experience.



                                SUBSTANCE DEPENDENCE (ADDICTION/ALCOHOLISM)

                                Three or more of the following:



                                TOLERANCE
                                WITHDRAWAL
                                LARGE AMOUNTS OVER A LONG PERIOD
                                UNSUCCESSFUL EFFORTS TO CUT DOWN
                                TIME SPENT IN OBTAINING THE SUBSTANCE REPLACES
                                SOCIAL, OCCUPATIONAL OR RECREATIONAL ACTIVITIES
                                CONTINUED USE DESPITE ADVERSE CONSEQUENCES

                                hmmm:
                                Last edited by Drachen; June 21, 2003, 19:09.
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