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which civs seem to be the most freakin erratic/nutso?

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  • #16
    The Iroqois are the worst backstabbing enemy you could have!

    Rome, France and even the Aztecs are loyal friends whenever I play with them (perhaps the Aztecs aren't so loyal...the sneak attacked me once. But just once!)

    I would vote for the Germans but they always make their intentions clear!
    " They will fight and die till the last warrior"
    -Dimaratos to Xerxes, a few days before the battle in Thermopylae...

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    • #17
      Germany, I find, is one of my most loyal allies the entire game (the other is France). The Greeks can always be counted on to declare war without provocation, but that's usually consistant. The most 'unpredictible' civs in my games are the Persians and Japanese; I can never tell whose side they are going to join or what they'll do. Most times it's the opposite of what they *should* do.
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      • #18
        England seems to make more demands of me than any other Civ, and yet often seems to be in the worst position to do so. Russia often follows along those lines as well. Egypt/Greece always seem so neutral to me, I can't remember the last time they started a war of aggression. I kind of tie this all into my theory that a Civ is most aggressive around the time they have their UU's, and some Civs like India/Greece/Egypt, have UU's that are either unsuited to combat, unremarkable, or limited in capability, and tend to remain pretty pacifistic. Civ's with great one's, like Rome and Germany get real powerful around those times.
        Rhett Monroe Chassereau

        "I use to be with it, then they changed what it is. And what I'm with isn't it, and what is it seems strange and scary to me." -Abe Simpson

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        • #19
          i've found mao to be a pretty slippery fish. impresses me as being mercenary. jerxes is a dangerously, arrogant @sshole. still think iroqois are the most wack, though.
          "Please don't go. The drones need you. They look up to you." No they don't! They're just nerve stapled.

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          • #20
            in my most recent game japan is acting like a complete nut I'm winning by a VERY comfortable margin with japan in second. japan approaches me for a MPP and wants 8 gpt from me. i figure, why not its just 8 and im pulling in like 400 gpt with a reserve of over 3000 and 4 turn techs (regent). so i agree. diplomacy screen closes, Japan has declared war on us. WTF?!? just based on this japan gets my vote.

            lateralis
            "As far as I'm concerned, humans have yet to come up with a belief worth believing." --George Carlin

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            • #21
              I would have to say either Rome or Persians.

              In my current game as the Germans, the Romans demended 23 gold from me in the ancient age. They are polite with me.
              I say no and they declare war. Ceasar is so clever that he had several cities gaurded by single warriors near my borders. sigh...
              He could have beaten me easily, as Rome had both Iron and 6 wine in its borders, but my archer stack encountered barely any Legions.

              And this is at Monarch, lol.
              I'm going to rub some stakes on my face and pour beer on my chest while I listen Guns'nRoses welcome to the jungle and watch porno. Lesbian porno.
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              • #22
                Originally posted by Wormwood
                ......I kind of tie this all into my theory that a Civ is most aggressive around the time they have their UU's, and some Civs like India/Greece/Egypt, have UU's that are either unsuited to combat, unremarkable, or limited in capability, and tend to remain pretty pacifistic. Civ's with great one's, like Rome and Germany get real powerful around those times.
                Well, I think it also dependes on the enemies' level of agression (Germany: 5 [!!!] France: 1[!!!!!]), plus their cultural type (Europian, Asian etc)

                Iroquis once again declared war on me after asking tribute and having being friends since the beggining!.....
                " They will fight and die till the last warrior"
                -Dimaratos to Xerxes, a few days before the battle in Thermopylae...

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                • #23
                  Germany can be one of your best friends. The trick is to know how to handle 'em.

                  Don't betray them. Don't interfere with them. Don't be nice to their allies. Get into a MPP, and alliances, and FIGHT. In one particularly bloody game it was me and Bismarck against the world. He was always friendly and gracious and ever-eager to kick some ass at my side.

                  Funny thing, when I started to nuke the other civs (this was waaaaaaaay late in the game), I could swear that big goofy grin of his was only getting bigger...

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Nakar Gabab


                    Funny thing, when I started to nuke the other civs (this was waaaaaaaay late in the game), I could swear that big goofy grin of his was only getting bigger...
                    Hehe, thats why I play as them.

                    "The industrious German people wish to ensure their world dominance by nuking you!"
                    I'm going to rub some stakes on my face and pour beer on my chest while I listen Guns'nRoses welcome to the jungle and watch porno. Lesbian porno.
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                    • #25
                      The Persians. You never know what the bloody bastard Xerxes is up to - he can either be the nice guy next door, flood you with 'them Immortals or play nice and one turn declare war on you, taking with him half of your so-called friends.
                      Wiio's First Law: Communication usually fails, except by accident.

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                      • #26
                        Persians also get my vote. Game to game and within games they seem to change there attitude without reason. Others do but predictably most of the time. Americans are always troublesome, India changes in modern era to be more like Americans, Iroqouis are always arrogant and think they are better than everyone else, the Germans are bullys and push around if you are smaller, friendly if you are bigger.
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                        • #27
                          Persians and Greeks always jerk me around the most, Zulus are effing t**** as well. As for the most erratic tho, its tight but possibly England. They are either very friendly or very aggressive but their mood changes with the tide of the sea
                          "Bite my shiny metal ass" - Bender B. Rodriguez

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                          • #28
                            I voted China simply because they were the wacko's beside me in my last game. I took 10 of their cities over the course of the game by culture and combat (they were number 1 and foolishly aggressive when they initially sneak attacked). We fought 3 seperate wars but late in the game they accept a MPP and ROP with me (I was being attacked by the Babs).

                            Clearly any of the AI civs will change "personalities" at the drop of a hat. It makes very little sense in human terms but the AI isnt.
                            We need seperate human-only games for MP/PBEM that dont include the over-simplifications required to have a good AI
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                            • #29
                              I voted English, because that old hag is always acting crazy, but in the game I'm in now, the Iroquois and Greeks are wigging out like I've never seen before. I'm playing on Emporer, small map, started with six civs (I already eliminated the Zulu), we're in the industrial age previous to tanks, so it's calvary versus infantry. I just passed the Greeks for the number one spot on the histograph, and I'm number 1 in population and just reached number one in land area. Every time I am at peace with all civs, the Iroquois declare war on me. They've dclared war on me three times, and twice we had just made a peace treaty three or four turns previous. Then, the freaking Greeks are schizophrenic. They had declared war on me twice, and were furious with me, of course. They were on another continent, so no real battle was taking place. We reach a peace treaty where I give him peace and a little cash for peace and a tech, and he is immediately gracious! WTF!!! I've never seen anyone become gracious like that.

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