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  • #16
    Originally posted by panag
    its nearly impossible to get that in the game
    Why not????
    Yours,

    LionQ.

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    • #17
      For example a helicopter that dont need to be in base every turn cannot fly over water.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by CivilopediaCity

        Why not????
        hi ,

        you would have to re-code everything that works with airunits , ..... and that is going to be costly , ..

        and what is actually wrong with the way they work now , .....

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Wormwood
          Well, except for that one shot down in Bosnia (Serbia?). Stealth aircraft do give off the occasional radar return, just not enough to be considered anything more (by ground controllers ) than natural phenomenon.

          That was to do with a French general leaking the flightpath details to the Yugoslavs, consequently a Mig was lying in wait. And people wonder why the Americans prefer to go it alone??
          "Bite my shiny metal ass" - Bender B. Rodriguez

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          • #20
            Originally posted by spy14



            That was to do with a French general leaking the flightpath details to the Yugoslavs, consequently a Mig was lying in wait. And people wonder why the Americans prefer to go it alone??
            What's your sorce on this?

            -Alech
            "Build Ports when possible. A port gives you extra resources, as well as an extra tile for a unit to stand on." - Infogrames

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            • #21
              Sounds like another internet story. Why would a Fr Gen know the flight path? Where would Yugos get a mig and a pilot? If is was true, the outrage here would be huge. The least you could expect is a courts martial for the general. More likely it was just luck. People refuse to except that strange things do in fact happen, even though they defy the odds.

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              • #22
                isn't the stealth paint job, i.e. the RAM ( radar absorbing material ), affected by bad weather - esp. rain? IIRC there was some story a while back about rain damaging the RAM and making the stealth fighter a lot more obvious to radar?

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                • #23
                  AFAIK, the Stealth fighter shot down over Serbia was downed by random AAA fire.

                  -Alech
                  "Build Ports when possible. A port gives you extra resources, as well as an extra tile for a unit to stand on." - Infogrames

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                  • #24
                    Stealth Aircraft can be detected by certain sensors, because the United States has only used thier up-to-date stealth craft on out-of-date systems there is little real "test" of these craft on modern systems.

                    The United States has systems that can detect stealth aircraft and Sweeden was the first to design a system that could defeat stealth. It is thought that most of Western Europe have these systems (Maybe Poland, Russia, PRC, and Japan too)

                    -Ocean

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                    • #25
                      Re: defeating stealth
                      Something to do with cellular bandwidth (and satellites?). A stealth aircraft will "cast a shadow," so obviously there would have to be special equipment to detect it.

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                      • #26
                        Calling it a 'Stealth' aircraft is a misnomer: the F-117 has an extremely small radar signature, yes, but it still leaves a vapour contrail, and there is enough heat from the engines to allow for a close range IR guided weapon to target it.

                        Technology is a wonderful thing, but over reliance on any one system will lead to disasters eventually. Even WW I sound ranging techniques that were used by the Canadian's at Vimy would very accurately spot a low flying F-117, enough to allow AAA to knock it down. The only thing is, no one uses such an old technology...

                        I used to check up on planes and stuff in Janes all the time and it never ceased to amaze me just how small a tactical advantage the latest changes within a technology give in combat.

                        In this game, I still think bombers, nuclear submarines and surface ships should be able to carry cruise missles, and that you can transport them in a boat between continents. After all, if they only have a range of 8, they only serve to cover choke points around your primary continent, and that's about it. I could easily live without the kill ability, but then it should be flexible enough to bother building...

                        But that's what the editor is for, eh ?


                        D.
                        "Not the cry, but the flight of the wild duck,
                        leads the flock to fly and follow"

                        - Chinese Proverb

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                        • #27
                          Off original topic:

                          Another comment on stealth. Australia's Jindalee Radar Network can apparently detect current stealth aircraft see http://defence-data.com/features/fpage37.htm

                          On topic:

                          I hope they don't bring back Civ2 aircraft. But they do need to improve aircraft. Longer range, and need to take into account all anti aircraft units and facilities between base and target. This will then require pathing to allow avoidance of anti air...

                          It could get very complicated, very quickly.

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                          • #28
                            Do you really want to sign up for more micromanagement?

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                            • #29
                              just heard from the history channel that the radar signature is that of a bird.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by panag
                                and what is actually wrong with the way they work now , .....
                                They're stupid in the attack. You can only launch them if you are in frontline with them
                                Yours,

                                LionQ.

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