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I wanted to get an answer on this before I began focusing my early Japanese military on swordsman or horsemen. Which of the two upgrade to Samurai? I understand Samurai are considered "Japanese Knights", but to upgrade from Horsemen to Samurai seems wrong, because Samurai require no horses, and are not even mounted, but then again, Swordsmen don't ordinarily upgrade. Any help would be great.
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Rhett Monroe Chassereau
"I use to be with it, then they changed what it is. And what I'm with isn't it, and what is it seems strange and scary to me." -Abe Simpson -
theyre knights. they upgrade form horsemen."I've lived too long with pain. I won't know who I am without it. We have to leave this place, I am almost happy here."
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Yup, Horsemen to Samurai.
BTW, have much gold ready for the cost, and get ready to kick ass.The greatest delight for man is to inflict defeat on his enemies, to drive them before him, to see those dear to them with their faces bathed in tears, to bestride their horses, to crush in his arms their daughters and wives.
Duas uncias in puncta mortalis est.Comment
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IIRC, they need horses and iron like a regular knight..."I've lived too long with pain. I won't know who I am without it. We have to leave this place, I am almost happy here."
- Ender, from Ender's Game by Orson Scott CardComment
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I'm certain they do not require horses, which is why it seems non-sensical to me.Rhett Monroe Chassereau
"I use to be with it, then they changed what it is. And what I'm with isn't it, and what is it seems strange and scary to me." -Abe SimpsonComment
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Originally posted by UberKruX
IIRC, they need horses and iron like a regular knight...
I just checked the editor... no horse... this has been swiftly corrected.
I drink to one other, and may that other be he, to drink to another, and may that other be me!Comment
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neat, thats an added bonus then!Originally posted by Thrawn05
I just checked the editor... no horse... this has been swiftly corrected.
i hated them before, now i hate them even more!
a 4/4/2 unit that JUST needs iron? INSANE."I've lived too long with pain. I won't know who I am without it. We have to leave this place, I am almost happy here."
- Ender, from Ender's Game by Orson Scott CardComment
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In my mod, I changed the upgrade paths for the AI's sake, because seeing anchient units in modern age is dull. This might interest you ('...' = continue with normal path, UUs are understood).Originally posted by Wormwood
I'm certain they do not require horses, which is why it seems non-sensical to me.
Warrior -> Swordsman -> Rifleman...
Archer -> Longbowman -> Rifleman...
Chariot -> Horseman -> Knight -> Cavalry -> Tank...
Frigate -> Ironclad -> Destroyer
The last one was totaly for the AI's sake, seeing loads of Ironclads made me ill in the late modern age games.I drink to one other, and may that other be he, to drink to another, and may that other be me!Comment
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Chulk one up to Firaxis... I'm giving this UU coal for a resource.Originally posted by UberKruX
neat, thats an added bonus then!
i hated them before, now i hate them even more!
a 4/4/2 unit that JUST needs iron? INSANE.
I drink to one other, and may that other be he, to drink to another, and may that other be me!Comment
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Originally posted by Thrawn05
Chulk one up to Firaxis... I'm giving this UU coal for a resource.
"I've lived too long with pain. I won't know who I am without it. We have to leave this place, I am almost happy here."
- Ender, from Ender's Game by Orson Scott CardComment
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Originally posted by UberKruX
I just remember how much I hate immortals... looks like someone needs an OIL change.
I drink to one other, and may that other be he, to drink to another, and may that other be me!Comment
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A Samurai costs more than twice of an Immortal, 70 vs 30 shields.Originally posted by UberKruX
neat, thats an added bonus then!
i hated them before, now i hate them even more!
a 4/4/2 unit that JUST needs iron? INSANE.
You get a really good deal for the Panzers, costing only 100 shields and many times more powerful than Samurai.
I agree that Samurai is annoying, butI think Legionaries and Immortals are far worse.Comment
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Thrawn05, does'nt that make Leos's sort of a mega wonder. Now you have never ending upgrades at a discount. The Civ that gets it can really roll.Comment
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I've done exactly the same thing, plus upgrading bombers, and tank to MA. Only thing I change is making Longbowman appear with Feudalism, so the have a short few turns as the best attack unit. Ironclads escorting galleys gets to meOriginally posted by Thrawn05
In my mod, I changed the upgrade paths for the AI's sake, because seeing anchient units in modern age is dull. This might interest you ('...' = continue with normal path, UUs are understood).
Warrior -> Swordsman -> Rifleman...
Archer -> Longbowman -> Rifleman...
Chariot -> Horseman -> Knight -> Cavalry -> Tank...
Frigate -> Ironclad -> Destroyer
The last one was totaly for the AI's sake, seeing loads of Ironclads made me ill in the late modern age games.
Rhett Monroe Chassereau
"I use to be with it, then they changed what it is. And what I'm with isn't it, and what is it seems strange and scary to me." -Abe SimpsonComment
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I don't like changing things in the editor. It is an extra challenge to get those hated units against you!
It is I Le Clerk! ;-) Quote from Allo allo.Comment
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