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  • #16
    Anyway France never got over her little mood spell and she just sent 30 modern armors and 40 mechs across my border so it's back to the grindstone.
    Thats Joan allright. She can be your best friend for thousands of years. As soon as she goes bald she becomes very likely to go on the offensive. One moment a gracious ally and the next she has made a alliance with her former enemy to get at the leader. Usually me in my games but I have seen her go after others when they were in the lead. The good thing is that she often does this before she gets those modern armour she is sending at you.

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    • #17
      Ya Joan is almost always my friend for the longest time. This is actually the first time I have seen her attack me in such a manner. I tried to get her to attack me a while ago before America starting nuking but she wouldn't do it. Its no biggy though. After the first turn she lost about 80% of her offensive force. I took 2 cities of hers that I have been wanting for a looong time and Germany and Russia have entered into to mpp with me. Hopefully I can get a U.N vote while I have them as allies and finish this game off. Either way with France about to get her arse beat I will then be #1 in culture after I take a few more of her cities and raise a few more. Aztecs rule!

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      • #18
        If for some reason you can't fulfill your end of a bargain, it might be nice to be able to offer the other player something in compensation for the botched deal. The more acceptable it is to them, the less the damage to your reputation. (Maybe extremely generous compensation for your incompetence could actually help your reputation -- players would know it is safe to make deals with you.)

        If a trade partner is cut off from you on their end -- by losing a harbor, for example -- it's not really fair for it to negatively impact your reputation. In some cases, it would be possible to keep up your end of the deal, even if they couldn't keep up theirs. If nothing else at least that should be an option.
        "God is dead." - Nietzsche
        "Nietzsche is dead." - God

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Ethelred
          Bismark is ornery. He doesn't like anyone most of the time. If you were the lead civ at that moment that could be why he was annoyed with you.
          Usually I make my first map trades in alliances to beat up Bismark, and normally he's the first to die.

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          • #20
            Ialways play as the Germans. I've never had to face Bismarck, but I do face Catherine. I end up destroying the Russians and the French every single game. I've played dozens of games and have never even seen a Cossack.
            "The great rule of conduct for us in regard to foreign nations is to have with them as little political connection as possible... It is our true policy to steer clear of permanent alliances with any portion of the foreign world, so far as we are now at liberty to do it." George Washington- September 19, 1796

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            • #21
              Cossaks aren't that great anyway. Their specs are 6.4.3. as opposed to their counterpart Cavalry which has 6.3.3. This one point difference in defense really doesn't make a lot of difference for an offensive unit. I think the best unit in the game is the Panzer. 3 tile movements and high offense really kicks ass. Plus Panzer's can be upgraded to Modern Armor and a lot of civ specific units can't be upgraded at all. ie. immortals, legionaire etc.

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              • #22
                Yes but the outcome was determined before the Panzer came into play. The Legionaire can make a difference when the game is still in doubt.

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