Can I move the Forbidden Palace?

[Thrawn05]

Originally posted by alva848
Most people do 'burn' a GL to build their FP IMO.

It should not be to easy to build it, again IMHO.

btw: I never move my palace either
( does the AI use this palace jump tactic?? Maybe we should just start to call this an exploit then. )

The only time the AI moves a capital is if you capture or raze their capital city. There are some things I found that AI doesn't do, Palace jumping and disbanding usless units for starters.



BTW: I'll keep as it is. Corruptions doesn't bother me that much. In fact in my mod, Regent has 110% corruption just to make more fun.

[alva]

BTW: I'll keep as it is. Corruptions doesn't bother me that much. In fact in my mod, Regent has 110% corruption just to make more fun.

aaaaahh, that's the spirit

[Saint Marcus]

I'm with you. I can't see playing the Romans, not having Roma the seat of power.

You do know that numerous Roman Emporers moved the capital around, from Milan to Ravenna to Constantinopel. so just pretend you're Constantine the Great

[Zachriel]

Originally posted by XarXo
Forbidden Palace is the WORST small wonder in the game, why? Simply this: you always need a minimum of 120 turns to finish it. I always use it as mi "capitol in a far area full of cities" like new continents, but the dramatic corruption rate always slows the building.

Actually, 200 turns. There are various methods to speed up the process, though.

http://www.zachriel.com/ForbiddenPalace.htm

[Hagbart]

You just have to place it the right place from the start then.

[Hagbart]

Originally posted by XarXo
Forbidden Palace is the WORST small wonder in the game, why? Simply this: you always need a minimum of 120 turns to finish it. I always use it as mi "capitol in a far area full of cities" like new continents, but the dramatic corruption rate always slows the building.

*PLEASE FIRAXIS* Is possible that when you start Forbidden Palace, a "royal member" is send to the city to manage the building and this reduces the corruption to the true capitol amount? *please* *please* *please*

Nice idea, but why should the FP be treated different than other wonders?

[Thrawn05]

Originally posted by Saint Marcus


You do know that numerous Roman Emporers moved the capital around, from Milan to Ravenna to Constantinopel. so just pretend you're Constantine the Great

Call me a traditionalist.


BTW, how long did Rome last after Constantine the Great moved the capital to Constantinopel?

[Thrawn05]

Originally posted by alva848


aaaaahh, that's the spirit

Regent: 110%
Monarch: 125%
Emperor: 133%
Deity: 166%

[Tuberski]

Originally posted by stonewall


I know I could do that, but I seem to have a sentimental attachment to my capital city

Is there a way to change the FP in the editor to allow it to be sold (for 0 gold), then rebuilt somewhere else?

I guess I will have to read those Palace stategies you mentioned...thanks.

If you are THAT attached, build your FP in your capital city. However, I can't remember if you have to move the Palace first or not.

[stonewall]

Originally posted by Tuberski



If you are THAT attached, build your FP in your capital city. However, I can't remember if you have to move the Palace first or not.

But then it wouldn't be my capital anymore !!

That is an interesting idea though.....

[Tuberski]

Originally posted by stonewall


But then it wouldn't be my capital anymore !!

That is an interesting idea though.....

True, but it does haver a the FP which does the exact same thing as a capital.

[Theseus]

Not quite... Palace effect on culture.

Another example of Capitol moves, though: New York, Philadelphia, and then (sell out to the South), the swampland now know as Washington, DC.

Like us all, though, I always feel an attachment to my original capitol... henceforth, to combat this non-optimal urge, my capitol will be wherever I damn want it to be, and will always be named, regardless of civ played... THESEOPOLIS!!

[Vlad Antlerkov]

BTW-- There's a method for easily moving your Palace without a GL-- "palace-jumping". Aeson can explain it better than I can. From this thread (scroll to the last few posts):

When you disband your capitol (or lose it to the AI) your Palace will automatically be built in another of your cities. In the early game when all your cities are building Settlers, it's pretty easy to move your capitol this way. It almost always will hit the 'target' city if it is the only city size 3+. With multiple larger cities it becomes very hard to predict exactly where the Palace will end up though.

Very useful in situations where you start out on the coast, on a peninsula or isthmus, or on the edges of a high food area. I almost always start out my games planning on jumping my Palace. If it ends up my capitol is nicely centered, great! If not, I'm prepared to make it so.

As Sir Ralph mentioned, this can be used to build the FP in a productive area, and then jump the Palace to a new city. You have to be careful though, sometimes the Palace will jump to the FP city, make sure it's at size 1 when you do the jump.

[metalhead]

Originally posted by Thrawn05
BTW, how long did Rome last after Constantine the Great moved the capital to Constantinopel?

Rome fell within 150 years, but the Eastern Roman Empire (Byzantium) lasted over 1100 years. If they had built a FP in Veii, the West might have also survived

[Thrawn05]

Originally posted by metalhead


Rome fell within 150 years, but the Eastern Roman Empire (Byzantium) lasted over 1100 years. If they had built a FP in Veii, the West might have also survived

The Easter Roman Empire were a bunch of traiters. Soon Rome will rise again and teach them to behave.