Scenarios that should come with the package?

[Dracon]

I think a decent 'Italy during the Renaissance' scenario would fit nicely with the package.
Just think, the scenario would balance military, trade, diplomacy and would be quite fun.
Th objective would be to eventually unify Italy, or dominate the economy or somehow win a diplomatic victory.

Also, make a really good 'Rise of the Roman Empire' scenario, and the object would be to vuild an empire and maintain it, hopefully making it to modern times. Just think of the epic scope of the game. Towards the time when the real empire fell, it should become increasingly difficult to maintain control. Which gives me an idea. There should be an event which increases difficulty DURING the game.

[UltraSonix]

If I recall correctly, SMAC had hardly any scenarios. And Civ2 only shipped with a few as well, the WWII one among them, which I thought was OK, but lacking creativity in its design. Whatever scenarios Firaxis implements should be of the highest quality. We could debate for ages about what the scenarios should be about, but in the end, they've just got to be good.

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[STING]

The most important thing is a comprehensive scenario editor.. then the amount of scenario's available for Civ3 wouldn't be much of a problem, because there are enough creative gamers out there

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[abuzayd]

for the last couple of weeks i've been hooked (again) on RR-tycoon 2, & one of the things i really like about that game is the way the scenarios are set up to encourage you to develop different strategies for different aspects of the game. one focuses on railbuilding, another on acquiring properties, another on the stock market, and so forth.

i was thinking it would be cool if the scenarios in Civ III were set up in a similar way -- one, for example, would require that the player learn how to finesse the (hopefully awesome) diplomatic system, one might concentrate on city management, one on defense, etc.

they could even be linked together into a "campaign" mode. any thoughts?

[Ken Bregott]

I am not quite certain it is anything the designers should spend their time and effort on. A scenario editor might take a bit more time to work, but it is infinately more rewarding.

However, if the deigners were to make a few scenarios, how about making them on different wars? Maybe the 30-years war, the Middle Eastern Conflicts, and a fantasy scenario? What the scenarios should do, like the ones for Conflicts in Civilization and Fanastic Worlds, is to exhibit how to use the editor to its fullest potential and serve as inspiration for the community of scenario-makers.

[Spekter@Home]

Exactly, a well documented, full bodied scenario editor with a couple of good examples is the way to go. Perhaps get early editions into the hands of gamers who have made good scenerios in the past and let them build the example scenarios and assist with the editor documentation.

[Hasdrubal]

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[Par4]

Good editor, let Firaxis work on the game not scenarios, let us work on scenarios, and suggest for the game

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[abuzayd]

i agree that a "full-bodied scenario editor" would be a great advantage to the game. but i also think a variety (a diversity, perhaps) of well-designed scenarios would help not only players but scenario designers. the two aren't incompatible -- again I refer you to RR-Tycoon 2, and also Starcraft. They both come with scenario editors (neither are perfect, of course, but...) AND cool scenarios.

In other words, I want it all!!

[This message has been edited by abuzayd (edited June 08, 2000).]

[OrangeSfwr]

I'd really like to see a well done Middle Eastern conflict scenario. But it would have to have seperate nations, not just "Arab Alliance" or something like that. Also, how about a Franco-Prussian war scenario? It was a short war, but interesting none the less.

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[Urban Ranger]

Don't you think some of the scenarios suggested have scales that are too small to fit comfortably in Civ?

However, a War of the Rings scenario would be cool.

[Spekter@Home]

If you did a middle east scenario, when would it start? They've been at war forever

[UltraSonix]

As was suggested, I think it is far less important what scenarios ship with the game (though if any do ship, they should be good). Instead, Firaxis shoulod concentrate on making a good game with a fully featured scenario editor, and if you guys fancy a Middle East scenario, simply create one yourselves.

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[Andz83]

quote: Originally posted by Dracon on 06-07-2000 03:46 AM I think a decent 'Italy during the Renaissance' scenario would fit nicely with the package. Just think, the scenario would balance military, trade, diplomacy and would be quite fun. Th objective would be to eventually unify Italy, or dominate the economy or somehow win a diplomatic victory.

Whenever I thought about things like science, culture and other things I thought about Italian Renaissance, so this kind of scenario would indicate those factors and concepts very well.

[OrangeSfwr]

Middle East Conflict - in Civ 2 (MPG) there's already a scenario about the arab roman wars. I meant Israel v. Arab nations. It could start in 1948/49 when the first Israeli Arab war occurred. The Civs in the scenario would be Israelis, Jordanians, Lebanese, Syrians, Egyptians, Saudi Arabians, Iraqis, Turks, and UN.

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