Idea for a Wonder of the World

[Christantine]

I have a idea for a wonder of the world called Pax Romana. The Pax Romana would double your science output, your luxury output and your shield production. Also you would get the same benifits of the Great Wall. The down part of this is that it would only last for 200 years (much like the actual Pax Romana). Send feedback!

[Christantine]

I made a mistake on the proposal! I meant to put, The Pax Romana would multiply your science output, your luxury output and your shield production by 50%. Sorry about that!

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[OrangeSfwr]

Could you explain what the Pax Romana is/was. (I assume something in Rome) but I never heard of it. Sounds interesting...

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[Youngsun]

OrangeSfwr

Pax X means that peace and prosperity maintained by the force/might of X. So Pax Romana means the peace and prosperity maintained by the might of Roman empire.

"Pax Romana" is one of Roman achievements not a wonder. We now live in the world that is under the cover of "Pax Americana". Germany once tried to establish "Pax Germana" in Europe and Japan tried "Pax Japonica" in Asia during WWII but both of them failed.

Christantine

What about Colesseum as a wonder rather than Pax Romana for a Roman wonder? While you are conducting military campaigne under Republic, there should be no war discontent as long as you have Colesseum wonder.

[Christantine]

quote: "Pax Romana" is one of Roman achievements not a wonder.

I understand what you are saying but it is not uncommon that achievements are used for Wonders of the World. Some Are:

King Richard's Crusade
Magellans Expedition
Darwin's Voyage
Women's Suffrage
Manhattan Project
Apollo Program

There isn't any specific building for any of these except museums. (Do you really think there is a "Bomb" siting on a monolith in the middle of town.) . I don't see the harm in having another achievement as a WoW.


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[Christantine]

I do agree with you, Youngson, that the Colesseum should be a Wonder for the Romans, but maybe each civ should have a materal wonder (Building or something written down) and a achievement. The colesseum, I think, should be replaced with an amphi-theatre.

[Steve Clark]

It sounds like an Ancient wonder, thus for 200 years, it would only last, what, 4-10 turns?

[Imran Siddiqui]

I'd rather have the Colisseum as a wonder instead of Pax Romana.

[Az]

hey hey . I think I've got an Idea for a "hebrew" wonder . as an Israeli may I ask for a wonder called the Great Temple . like the temple of Jerusalem , destroyed by the Romans. it will act as a temple in each city and double the city's Luxury output. and it's effects will expire when ....
well lets say the first time the city is conquered by another CIV . how about that ? folks if you have ideas for maternal WoW for your Civs plz post !

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[Christantine]

Steve Clark

I would hope that in Civ III that the turns would have shorter time increments than now. But you are right so maybe the Effects could last longer. (Suggestions???)

Dalgetti

Great idea, but maybe instead of doubling the luxury rate for the city maybe it should make one person happy in each of your cities.

Keep those ideas rollin' in!

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[Youngsun]

Christantine

Haha! I knew it! you would bring those examples of "Magellans Expedition" or
"Darwin's Voyage" to your next reply.

Although they are achivements not a wonder, they are all unique and happened only once in history and hasn't been repeated by others(even if repeated with lesser significance) I mean if some people do cross the Pacific, they don't become as great as Magellan or if China does conduct experiments thousands times with its nukes, its achivement can not equal to that of very first atomic bomb experiements in Nevada desert.

Things like "Pax Romana" can happen any time at now and future and I rather say the significance of it even increased(Pax Americana)which reduce the legitimacy of Pax Romana as a wonder but a achivement.

But the Colesseum is unique and very Roman indeed and no where it can be found but only in Rome. Sorry to disappoint you but I really have to disagree on this Christantine. but you are right the city improvement should be called ampi-theatre and later stadium(football perhaps?)so the Colesseum can be a wonder.

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[Par4]

I support the Colesseum. The colesseum could increase happiness and support of war efforts. The Pax Romana was strictly Rome kicking the crap out of everyone near them for a hundred or so years so they quit for a couple hundred years and Rome had time to increase industy, science, culture, domestic stuff. Maybe this could be achieved by no wars for 500 years or something, think a golden age in SMAC except nation wide. Pax X would last until any attack whether it be terrorist, convential, or spy.

X=Nation name in latin

*every says "yes yes good idea Par just like in SMAC except nation wide, you are such a genius"*

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[Az]

I guess this together with "Battle","nuclear threat" and "units and Democracy" is becoming one of my favorite threads in here . par4 = its pretty true . it was just that way . but Coliseum ? nop . I guess that there must be a different wonder that will allow to maintain a great military ,and be a Republic. any thoughts ?

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[Stuff2]

Pax romana...

I like it. ;-)

[Youngsun]

Christantine

Do you want whether "Pax Romana" built by accumulation of shields or achieve it by your own action(maintaining peace for a long time by your military might)as suggested by Par4 so special bonus for your overall civ score can be given?

If you want the latter I would never disagree with you on this but building things like "Pax Romana" by accumulation of shields ,which might have been used for your own military build up to keep the balance of power in the region, which you belong to, doesn't seem right.

I believe "Pax-country name in Latin" should be earned by yourself by contributing your effort to build/maintain your military muscle enough to keep regional peace and prevent any possible invasion which might have been occured if you did not have enough military power. Just imagine that you have small and petty size of army holding your empire and suddenly after the completion of building "Pax X" and peace can be assured? That's very very weird I say.

But "Athenian Naval Academy" is good suggestion Christantine and I support the idea and the bonus of having it is reasonable as you suggested. Keep up the good work!

Dalgetti

I think you must be angry with me because I did not reply to your "Great temple" idea sorry about that mate!

I think Great Temple's effect should be similar to that of "Hanging Garden" or "Oracle" by reducing people's discontent through religious zeal. Any other Hebrew wonder would be welcome if you explain in detail.
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