Inbetween Despotism and Commuism?

[Inverse Icarus]

I'd like to add an extra government to my game, but I dont know what it is or what it should have.

Basically, i want a government that has lower corruption than a despotism, but has the ability to poprush rather than pay for things. you know, somethign to step into (despotism->THIS->communism) sort of like (despotism->republic->democracy), although many people are against democracy .

i used to have Fascism (sp?) installed, but it was unbalancing and it came right alongside communism. I'd want something in the late ancient era or the early mideval era. Perhaps Feudalism could be made a government?

Would it have communist-like corruption due to the manorial system? is there a way to make a "more corrupt"communal corruption system? I'll check the editor tomorrow. I'm tired and ranting .

think it over and lemme know.

[notyoueither]

Absolutism/Feudalism.

Many Feudal systems relied more on the power of the whip rather than the power of the purse. Monarchy is more akin to the later British institution rather than the medieval French.

[NeoStar]

If I modded a gov there I would put in a Republic that had military support like Monarchy.

The eternal decision - Monarchy or Republic

To balance it out you could restrict the science rate and call it Theocracy or something ... but it can't go below 50

[Grumbold]

Feudalism sounds good to me. The sort of monarchy that generally had the power spread around in the hands of many nobles rather than centred strongly in the king. I'm not sure that it would have fixed rates of corruption though. That sounds more probable in a theocracy or whatever you would call the ancient chinese system where a huge area could be ruled but bribery was endemic (the name eludes me).

[HazieDaVampire]

England still has part of our old system, the house of lords! They get to make decisions and they're only there cuz they fathers were! I realy want to kill those guys!

[Deathwalker]

England still has part of our old system, the house of lords! They get to make decisions and they're only there cuz they fathers were! I realy want to kill those guys!

Most of the hereditory peirs are gone. Most of them are now appointed by the Goverment. So in our case they just do what ever Tony wants. The house of Lord now is not what it was ten years ago. There just a rubber stamp for the Giverment, either of them

[Grumbold]

Yes replacing awkward old toffs who would object to anything that didn't fit with the way their grandparents did things with a bunch of toadying party donors keen to rubber stamp anything that the government wants is hardly an improvement. We need a second House, and the Peers do a better job at times than some people give them credit for, but this whole half baked attempt at reform is making matters worse.

[Inverse Icarus]

I'm back to re-ask a question:

is it possible to make a more corrupt communal government?

i could always lower the mil police level / draft rate / support costs but it's still the same corruption...

i'm going to make a rate cap of 60% i guess.

[OPD]

How about the option of either paying or whipping while a monarchy?

You'd probably have to have more unhappyness due to whipping though.

[LaurenX2C]

uber I that picture near your name. Homer is funny.


I havent mastered the game yet. My expierence with Communism was a bad one. Lots of waste. I hate that. Is there anyway to fight it?

[Willem]

Re: Inbetween Despotism and Commuism?

Originally posted by UberKruX
I'd like to add an extra government to my game, but I dont know what it is or what it should have.

Basically, i want a government that has lower corruption than a despotism, but has the ability to poprush rather than pay for things. you know, somethign to step into (despotism->THIS->communism) sort of like (despotism->republic->democracy), although many people are against democracy .

i used to have Fascism (sp?) installed, but it was unbalancing and it came right alongside communism. I'd want something in the late ancient era or the early mideval era. Perhaps Feudalism could be made a government?

Would it have communist-like corruption due to the manorial system? is there a way to make a "more corrupt"communal corruption system? I'll check the editor tomorrow. I'm tired and ranting .

think it over and lemme know.

How about an Oligarchy? Power is shared, unlike a Monarchy but, but only within a small group of people. The ancient Greek system could be described in that way. Only select males were allowed to have a say in desicions. And no, there's only the one setting for communal corruption.

[Switch]

Well, the ancient greek system wasn't so much a select group of males, but more every male except those who didn't meet the requirements, ie wasn't a slave, was old enough, and stuff like that. It was, I guess, limited suffrage.

And if you're gonna have a religious gov't with limited science, please don't make it Theocracy. Perhaps Fundamentalism, but not theocracy. Thocracy in no way inhibits science, except of course in certain cases where moral values take precedence. And more improtantly, Theocracy isn't really a religion, but more a subject, kinda like geography or physics.....

[Thrawn05]

I had an idea for a Imperialistic Dictatorship government that can come with Feudalism. However, you can't rush anything, but if you want to take a look here are the stats.

Prerequisite: Feudalism
Corruption: Problematic (Monarchy)
Rate Cap: 5
Work Rate: 1
Assimilation: 0
Draft Limit: 4
Military Police: 1
Hurry Production: No
War Weariness: No
Requires Maintenance: No
Standard Tile Penalty: Yes
Standard Trade Bonus: No
Unit Support Costs: NONE!
Diplomats Are: Conscript
Spies Are: Conscript
Immune To: Sabotage Production

Having free buildings and free units is nice, but not being able to rush, research/entertain 100% and can't assimilate other people really hurts. Also the diplomats and spies are very bad (the idea is that your oppressed people are so busy maintaining their own military and buildings there is no time for them to learn what is takes to be a good diplomate and spies.

Switching out of this government tends to make my people unhappy for the cruel treatment I forced them to go under then. Still, I like it, very interesting government configuration.

[Willem]

Originally posted by SwitchMoO
Well, the ancient greek system wasn't so much a select group of males, but more every male except those who didn't meet the requirements, ie wasn't a slave, was old enough, and stuff like that. It was, I guess, limited suffrage.

So if that's not an Oligarchy, then what is? The Spartan system is a good example. Very few members of that society were allowed to have any power. And everyone else was little more than a vassal of the ruling class. They relied heavily on slave labour, so that the male members could devote themselves to the "arts of war". The females weren't even allowed to raise their own male children, they were placed in a barracks as soon as they were old enough to fight.

[SABRA]

Lets hope that with PTW there are some new types .
Any news on that .