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    Why are my citizens unhappy after I make peace?

    Eight Civilizations (including myself). At war with Six. Two on the same continent. Another three don't even send units to hit me because they are on another continent. The last Civ actually took a small town off me which I took back in a couple of turns. I have Luxuries up to 10% to maintain happiness in my Republic.

    I finally make peace with 4 of the reasonable Civs. What happens? Half my civilization goes into disorder!

    Why is that? I thought it would improve war weariness and everybody would be happy again...

    I also recall that when each of the other Civs declared war on me, some cities went into a period of WLTKD. Am I missing something here?

    Anyone?
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    Re: Why are my citizens unhappy after I make peace?

    Originally posted by YC4B4U
    Eight Civilizations (including myself). At war with Six. Two on the same continent. Another three don't even send units to hit me because they are on another continent. The last Civ actually took a small town off me which I took back in a couple of turns. I have Luxuries up to 10% to maintain happiness in my Republic.

    I finally make peace with 4 of the reasonable Civs. What happens? Half my civilization goes into disorder!

    Why is that? I thought it would improve war weariness and everybody would be happy again...

    I also recall that when each of the other Civs declared war on me, some cities went into a period of WLTKD. Am I missing something here?

    Anyone?
    Pehaps the people think you were a sellout? This happened to me once. I made peace with a weaker civ so I can get a vassel state, but I went into anarchy in 2 turns after the treaty.
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    • #3
      maybe the people were happy to attack the other civ, especially if they attqacked you first. and then when you stop the fighting your people get unhappy.. cause you didnt finish them off..

      Just like real life, if USA goes and attacks Afghansistan and calls war off before completing their mission then US citizens will be unhappy but most will be happy while the fighting goes on !!
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      • #4
        Usually, when you are attacked, you get a surge of happiness to make it seem like patriotism or something. when you end the war it goes away, and if your cities grew, they'll get sad.
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        • #5
          This happens to me allot. I'll goto war and suddenly my cities have "we love the XXXX" but when I make piece, they go back to normal, or go into disorder.

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          • #6
            Are these comments on reasons for the unhappiness heresay or based on comments from the developers which I have missed?

            What I mean is, have the developers ever confirmed what you are suggesting. It makes sense to me but is that what the programmers intended...

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            • #7
              If you want know what's causing unhappiness, right click on one of the unhappy citizens. It will tell you why they're not pleased.

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              • #8
                Actually, I think a left click will bring up the unhappiness causes. But maybe a right click works too.

                I once thought that cities near my capital or of a certain size got a extra bonus from luxuries. Then I saw a thread in which someone said that going to war with your enemies actually will make some of your citizens happy, as they will support the war. I guess that those citizens were happy because I was at war. Go figure.

                Assuming that this is actually the case, this is one of those things -- like culture production being halved during war mobilization -- that really should be mentioned somewhere -- the game manual, the Civilopedia, the readme file -- but isn't, as far as I know.
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                • #9
                  When you're winning the war (especially when you're capturing cities), your citizens become happy. You need to be winning fast to outpace the war weariness under Republic or Democracy.
                  If you declare peace all turns back to normal.
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                  • #10
                    click on the angry heads in the city vies,
                    and it will tell you why they are unhappy.
                    Formerly known as "CyberShy"
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                    • #11
                      oh, and if it says "We're unhappy because Sid did not put MP in the initial game" there's nothing you can do about it for now.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Willem
                        If you want know what's causing unhappiness, right click on one of the unhappy citizens. It will tell you why they're not pleased.
                        The problem with that is that if there was something making them content that goes away they will not tell you. For example, if you have a city with a cathedral, and then the cathedral is destroyed and the city goes into disorder, the dialogue will not say, “We miss the cathedral” it will say “It’s much to crowded.”

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                        • #13
                          Short memories .... may of been 20 years ago that said Cathedral silently crumbled.
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                          • #14
                            You are still at war with 2 civs. War weariness is still increasing until you are at peace with everyone. It's just a coincidence that the bad effects happened the same turn you made peace with some of the civs.
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                            • #15
                              WarpStorm is right. You have to make peace with all civs.

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