Where are these "raging" barbarians?

[Arrian]

Redbird,

Ok, I know what you mean. I've had that happen too. I don't think workers or settlers count (yes, they push back the FoW, but they aren't military units). In my experience, the only way to get rid of those blasted camps is to build cities and expand your borders. However, I distinctly recall several situations where I could not spare a settler and I used a unit to sit on a mountain in an unsettled area to prevent the barbs from popping up again. It worked.

-Arrian

[RedBird]

Originally posted by Jaybe
Within difficulty settings, change "combat bonus vs barbarians" = 0

Just went into the editor, and I see that on Monarch level the value is 100. [Names corrected:](Chieftain=800, Warlord=400, Regent=200, Monarch=100, Emperor=50, Diety=0). Does this mean that you have one-to-one odds at diety, but at monarch you get two-to-one odds against barbarians? If not then how does these numbers work?



Edit: When I first posted this I mixed up the names. I'm correcting them with this edit.

[Jaybe]

Originally posted by Arrian
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The best option is to remove the barb combat bonus. Or play at the difficulty level where there is none (but of course the AI always plays on "regent" so they have a huge combat bonus vs. barbs).
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I always play at Regent also, so the AI has as much advantage over them as I have. This way (hopefully), the AI can be tormented by the barbs also!

JB,
President of the Equal Combat Rights to Barbarians Society

[RedBird]

Originally posted by Arrian
However, I distinctly recall several situations where I could not spare a settler and I used a unit to sit on a mountain in an unsettled area to prevent the barbs from popping up again. It worked.

You must have been lucky then because I've done the exact same thing, and I've had encampments pop up. I think I recall an encampment popping up once next to a Modern Armor, but I'm not positive about that. I am positive, however, about encampments popping up under the watchful eye of MechInf sitting on mountains.

[Jaybe]

Originally posted by RedBird
Just went into the editor, and I see that on Monarch level the value is 100. (Chieftain=800, Regent=400, Prince[I think it was called prince, but I forget now]=200, Monarch=100, Warlord=50, Diety=0). Does this mean that you have one-to-one odds at diety, but at monarch you get two-to-one odds against barbarians? If not then how does these numbers work?

YES, at Monarch your strength is doubled! Attack AND Defense, is my belief. Isn't that horrendous? SO unfair to the poor barbs.

That's why it's "President of the Equal Combat Rights to Barbarians Society"

[Marquis de Sodaq]

My current game is on a real world map. The map starts with several barbarian encampments there. It's about 1200ad, and I just plopped the first towns down in australia. I've had my military there for over a century, tho - four elite infantry on rough terrain. One is dead (!), the others have all lost hit points. There were more barbarian horsemen than I could count. The first wave of attacks brought dozens of horsemen. After that, they just kept streaming in, with no end in sight. I managed to wipe out two encampments, but half of the continent is still black...

My point is just that the camps will produce huge numbers of bad guys, given enough time. Even tho they are just wimps, the sheer number of them makes it a force to take seriously!

Another good mod is to make a modded privateer 3/1/5 the default barbarian ship. They can sink all your wooden ships, so you must take care around them.

[N. Machiavelli]

How very egalitarian of you Jaybe.

"Sure they're smelly and want to destroy us but darnit, we have to be fair"

[Jaybe]

Originally posted by N. Machiavelli
How very egalitarian of you Jaybe.

"Sure they're smelly and want to destroy us but darnit, we have to be fair"

Thank You! I have to admit that I get the most fun out of the barbarian threads.
There are few areas in life that I try to ram my opinions down another's throat, but this is definitely one of them.

JB,
President of the Equal Combat Rights to Barbarians Society

[Willem]

Originally posted by RedBird


You mean that in one turn the barbarian encampment will put out 30 horsemen, or just that over time you'll end up with 30 horsemen?

Both.

If you get a notice of an uprising from your military advisor, you might get a stack of 25-30 horsemen appear out of nowhere. Sometimes they're produced by an encampment, sometimes they're produced by a Galley on the coast.

However, the encampments also produce Horsemen at various intervals, I'm not sure of the time scale, if there even is any. It could be just a random thing. At any rate, the Horsemen produced tend to join together over time, so that if you don't take out an encampment that's close to your empire, you might find yourself battling a stack of 20 or more eventually.

[SpencerH]

Originally posted by Jaybe

YES, at Monarch your strength is doubled! Attack AND Defense, is my belief. Isn't that horrendous? SO unfair to the poor barbs.

That's why it's "President of the Equal Combat Rights to Barbarians Society"

Is that with 1.29 ? It seems like I've lost more combats than normal against barbs with my first 1.29 game (monarch).

[ALPHA WOLF 64]

in 1.29, i noticed that uprisings have been reduced to 6 barbs. thats not an uprising, thats just an annoyance. bring back the 26 barbs..........

[Jaybe]

Originally posted by SpencerH
Is that with 1.29 ? It seems like I've lost more combats than normal against barbs with my first 1.29 game (monarch).

I THINK Redbird is in error in one or two of the percentage advantages, but if you check your Editor: Difficulty Levels tab: Attack Bonus Against Barbarians, you'll find what they are. Check the .bic file you are playing with (original or scenario).

JB,
President of the Equal Combat Rights to Barbarians Society

[Jaybe]

Originally posted by ALPHA WOLF 64
in 1.29, i noticed that uprisings have been reduced to 6 barbs. thats not an uprising, thats just an annoyance. bring back the 26 barbs..........

I cannot yet speak with authority, but I would wager that your 6 barbs had been intercepted by some AI troops, reducing their number.

JB,
President of the Equal Combat Rights to Barbarians Society

[Edit: deleted duplicate 'yet', typos]

[Willem]

Originally posted by Jaybe

I cannot yet speak with authority yet, but I would wager that your 6 barbs had been intercepted by som AI troops, reducing their number.

JB,
President of the Equal Combat Rights to Barbarians Society

Yes, a maximum of 6 seems like a pretty drastic reduction, especially considering that they added a no barb option in the game setup.

[Jaybe]

If they have been reduced to 6 in number, I would bet that they increased their effect (well, at least I HOPE so)!