Extension idea: moon colonizer.

[muxec]

Allow moon colonization. Moon is a second tiny map and you may drop colonists to it. Sending unit to moon will cost 800 base cost but some advances reduce cost of sending:
sattellites, superconductor, Integrated defence reduce ythe cost by 100.
Robotics reduces the cost by 200.
Future tech reduce it 50 gp per level untill making free.

Moon colony increases your rating drastically and disables space race victory to other civs.

[HazieDaVampire]

seems pritty cool, but how would it disable other civs space race?
The Ability of super fast ICBM's that can be fired without the risk of Intrigates defense would be good (These must befired from the moon onto a target!)

[Destroyer]

Why would ICBMs fired from the moon be superfast? They have many times the distance to travel and be intercepted.

[Iskandar Reza]

Emmm, Gravity? 10ms/s is pretty fast right?

[Palleon]

It takes a few hours to fire an ICBM from one part of the world to the other. It takes 3 days to get to the moon. If you want to fire ICBM's from the moon, not only would it be slow, but inaccurate, because the target will have moved a hell of a lot since then, because the Earth will have rotated quite a lot.

[Iskandar Reza]

[Dr Evil]No, we shall put a huge "laser" on the moon. This huge "laser" will be called the Alan Parsons Project. With that, the moon shall be called the "DeathStar". With this "DeathStar", we shall hold the world at ransom for.............



........a million bucks. [/Dr Evil]

[muxec]

No, moon will have a unique resource.

[Blake]

Helium3, used in fusion reactors.

[Andrew_Jay]

I really like this idea, too bad it is such that it could only be done by Firaxis . . . or a really good programmer with all the right tools.
So, basically, the moon will be a slightly smaller map (probably 1/6 or so?)? Maybe it'd fit in really well with a fifth, post-modern age, though that'd be kind of weird, going to Alpha Centuri first . . .
But anyway, I like the idea. Be cool to be contstructing special "moon colonists" and "moon infantry" on earth and then senging them skyward.

Kind of related, you know the space elevator in AC? Apparently NASA is funding the construction of a real one.

[XF Clohvn]

Great idea. Sounds like something they could put in Civ4.

[Willem]

Originally posted by Andrew_Jay

Kind of related, you know the space elevator in AC? Apparently NASA is funding the construction of a real one.

They're not funding the construction of it as yet, it's only a feasability study at the moment.

[Ninot]

Originally posted by Palleon
It takes a few hours to fire an ICBM from one part of the world to the other. It takes 3 days to get to the moon. If you want to fire ICBM's from the moon, not only would it be slow, but inaccurate, because the target will have moved a hell of a lot since then, because the Earth will have rotated quite a lot.

actually, I have read an ICBM only takes 40 minutes to circle the world...

and, targetting wouldnt be an issue. Heck, its not like we missed the moon when we sent the apollo missions. We can arrange for satelites to meet up with Jupiter exactly as planned, hitting a city would not be much of a task.

Im thinking re-entry might be a problem tho. It would be coming in a couple of times the speed of sound, and it would need to be coming in at an angle for a certain city.

[Palleon]

Just a few things that are bothering me with this one. One, the game would have been won by this point, if you have the ability to go to the moon, you'd be able to build the spaceship and win the game. Two, the moon can't produce food, has no resources, so would be completely dependant on the earth for all food, and wouldn't be able to produce anything. And since cities now can't send any excess food, I don't think this would work. As for preventing other civs space races, why? I don't get the logic behind that one. I think that this might make a good small wonder, that reduces the cost of spaceship parts for that civ (Instead of a Moon Colony, how about a lunar spacedock?) That's my 2 cents for now.

[sabrewolf]

interesting idea!

but the moon colonization shouldn't be like another (smaller) earth colonization.

because the moon has no resources (expect cheese that is... "everyone knows, that the moon is made of cheese" (C) Wallace & Gromit) and transporting resources doesn't make much sence. production should be done down on earth and then airlifted (or spacelifted) to the moon. of course there's only a limited number of units per turn you can spacelift, etc. etc. etc.

the interesting thing about this would be to find out how many units you use at home and how many on the moon.

moon dominance --> you can trigger a global nuclear winter and survive
but if you don't keep your earth cities --> less production, less units on the moon.

but this all sounds like a new game rather then civ4

[Andrew_Jay]

perhaps commerce on the moon will be huge, in return for maybe enough food to keep people alive, and only one or two shield production (not from lack of resources, but lack of facilities. ie factories etc.). That could represent all the research that can be carried out up there; astronomy, low-gravity what-not etc.

Maybe there can also be an Alan Parsons Moon Laser small wonder to make the moon even more attractive. It could target the earth for a pretty big, once a turn bombardment.