Reputation: What's the point?

[Nuctemeronn]

Is reputation really important to you? Does it plays a major role in your strategy?
I always break teatries, backstabbing, pillage, demand gold or techs, violate ROP, conduct espionage actions and win! (i found this the only way to win, at least in Emperor or Monarch). What's the point then?
What "black marks" affect the curse of the game? Bad reputation neither gives you negative points (like pollution in civ2), so...
Is this different in Deity? (plan my next game in deity, so i wonder if reputation become a big issue in this difficulty level).

Cya

[Apocalypse]

If you want to get a diplo victory, you gotta stay on the good side of at least some civs.

[W4r_Machine]

Yes, I put a high value on my rep. otherwise I couldn't make the deals I want with other CIV. I never make RoP deals and backstabing is beyond me. It takes the fun out of the game when you take 10 cities in the first turn of war due to RoP. I don't want the other CIV to do it to me so why do it to them, eventhough AI can be annoying at times.

my 2 cents.

[Ignorance]

If you have good relations with other civs, you get better trade deals from them.
Friendly civs sell techs more cheaply etc.

And sometimes RoP with the right civ comes real handy.

[Sean]

Reputation is of little value. And ridiculasly hard to maintain.

[Coracle]

Originally posted by Sean
Reputation is of little value. And ridiculasly hard to maintain.

Exactly. The idiotic AI also blames you for MILLENNIA for stuff.

I have repeatedly been blamed by the AI for things I never did.

I have been told to get off my own resources because the idiotic Culture Border flipped over it! If I refuse I am a "warmonger" forever.

I have attacked arrogant settlers wandering through my terrirtory after being told TWICE to leave. So I'm a warmonger?! What a joke.

As far as I am concerned the whole Reputation thing is just another form of AI cheat trying to screw over the human.

[ThePlagueRat]

Yeah, be afraid of AI, be angry... 'Cause one day they'll rule us all.

[W4r_Machine]

Originally posted by Coracle


Exactly. The idiotic AI also blames you for MILLENNIA for stuff.

I have repeatedly been blamed by the AI for things I never did.

I have been told to get off my own resources because the idiotic Culture Border flipped over it! If I refuse I am a "warmonger" forever.

I have attacked arrogant settlers wandering through my terrirtory after being told TWICE to leave. So I'm a warmonger?! What a joke.

As far as I am concerned the whole Reputation thing is just another form of AI cheat trying to screw over the human.

Granted, however, you're gonna have hard time beating the game. AI will be AI no matter how you slice it. Play it right and they'll help you destroy themselves. Why make it harder for yourself.

[Ninot]

reputation is vital to keeping a better economy, i believe. Reputation is almost as important as what you have in your borders.

[Phil_de_geezer]

I have repeatedly been blamed by the AI for things I never did

like what?

[ShredZ]

Friendly civs sell techs more cheaply etc.

I think someone did tests on this and found that the AI can be "furious" or "gracious" and the tech would still be sold for the same going rate...

[Fitz]

Keeping a spotless reputation is easy, and it allows you to freely pick and choose your wars most of the time. And when one civ finally starts to lose it's patience with you, you can easily get every other civ to declare war on them.

War by proxy is fun. I typically only fight 2-4 active wars in a game. One in each age ancient to modern at the most, and all except modern are usually exactly 20 turns before I cancel my alliances, make peace, and sit back and watch all the other civs pound on the poor fool for the next 30-40 years. talk about laugh.

The modern age war is usually a game ender to knock the 2-3 largest remaining civs completely out of the game (not totally destory unless a conquest victory though) so I can leasurly (sp?) make a space win.

[Arrian]

A bad rep will prevent the AI from selling you stuff in exchange for gold per turn. It will only sell things for lump sums... which I don't think is a big deal. You will be unable to get RoP agreements out of them, and they are probably less likely to ally with you or sign an MPP.

If you are an aggressive, warmongering jerk (like me), there does seem to be a corresponding increase in AI aggression, whether against you or amongst themselves.

-Arrian

[SomeOneElse]

Be a sneaky little manipulator, pit civs against each other, while keeping your reputation spotless. Maintain a high enough culture, and your the one doing the culture flips, and let some settlers slip through your territory, soon enough it will be a free city for you.

[nato]

If you have good relations with other civs, you get better trade deals from them.
Friendly civs sell techs more cheaply etc.

I thought testing had indicated this was not so, that in fact reputation does not affect trade deal prices.