Flying Settlers

[Marquis de Sodaq]

Attack=0 units cannot fly. Why, I don't know, but there you have it.

[kring]

You forgot Explorers; surely, they aren't any bigger than any military unit?

Last I heard, only 1 M1 could be airlifted, with part of a second one.

[dunk]

Originally posted by jimmytrick
Walt Disney named an elephant Joey Tribiani?

Perhaps, but that's not the intent of my post.

Matt LeBlanc, star of the popular US sitcom "Friends" has a role in the film "Dumbo Drop" as a US military officer who is charged with the task of airlifting an elephant to a zoo or somesuch. Zany adventures and many guffaws occur along the way, but in the end, the elephant is safely delivered to its destination.

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Originally posted by jimmytrick
Walt Disney named an elephant Joey Tribiani?

They used a different spelling tho' in order to prevent lawsuit with NBC.

[philippe666]

its stupid and sloppy programming.the programmer should be shot.

[King of Rasslin]

Phillippe666, Coracle, you 2 just don't make navies? I mean, just move the leader on the railroad or put him in a transport! How hard is that?

I agree that cavalry shouldn't be airlifted, but neither should leaders. Give me a break, you know that it would be unbalancing to the game to get him to your capitol in 1 turn.

The AI is excellent compared to CtP. Try programming it yourself and see how hard it is.

[Loopy]

How can it possibly be considered sloppy progamming if the flag's there? Settlers and workers, in addition to representing a gameplay unit, are 2 population points and 1 population point respectively. Being able to airlift in population into captured cities would unbalance the game in terms of pop rushing, culture flipping, and city production. Very clearly a game design issue and not "sloppy" programming.

Leaders are also a game play issue. They're given three movement and no defense for a reason -- so you have to walk the leader to the city where you want to use it. Before you use the leader to rush a project or build an army, there's the risk that it'll be destroyed. That risk helps tone down the strength of leaders.

Armies could either be game design or sloppy programming. You could argue game design in that airlifting in a defensive army pretty much guarantees the city won't be taken. It could also be sloppy programming in that the programmers were having a hard time keeping the units together (see early stack movement).

Just because it's not the way you would have made it or because you wish you could exploit something doesn't make it stupid and sloppy programming.

[Winterlord]

Originally posted by Loopy
How can it possibly be considered sloppy progamming if the flag's there? Settlers and workers, in addition to representing a gameplay unit, are 2 population points and 1 population point respectively. Being able to airlift in population into captured cities would unbalance the game in terms of pop rushing, culture flipping, and city production.

THANK YOU!
I just wanted a reasonable, and intelligent rationale for not being able to Airlift Workers.
They things I program suck pretty bad, so I would never accuse the people who wrote my favorite game of sloppyness. They had their reasons. I mean you can change the game as much as you want, I do it, but I like to understand the reasons Fir. had in mind when they made their game. Your answer makes sense.
Thanks.

[MarkG]

If I could not have Edited the ridiculous, non-historical, and goofy values that Firaxis slapped together I'd have sold this turkey on E-Bay last December for an old CD of
Civ 1.

darn, if the game was less editable we might have been saved...

btw, please release your mod so that we can enjoy civ3 again!
/me alt-tabs back to civ3

[King of Rasslin]

lol, Markg! I bet Coracle actually enjoys Civ 3, he just wants the attention.

[MarkG]

he just wants the attention

we build and manage civs every day. people build palaces for us. i think this is as much attention as any man would need

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by MarkG
darn, if the game was less editable we might have been saved...

btw, please release your mod so that we can enjoy civ3 again!
* MarkG alt-tabs back to civ3

[MarkG]

what's the for? the russians are indeed waiting for me to crush them in the other window!

[notyoueither]

Waiting for the mod.

[MarkG]

Waiting for the mod.

ah yes, the mod...