Marines & City Defenses - Any Bonuses?

[Panag]

Originally posted by Catt


No - in my test mod, all experience levels (conscript through elite) have the same number of hit points. See the test structure in the link several posts above.

Catt

hi ,

any way to calculate it with the experience level , ...

have a nice day

[Catt]

Originally posted by panag


hi ,

any way to calculate it with the experience level , ...

have a nice day

Th experience level doesn't matter. Experience only adds HPs -- it does not change attack / defense values or otherwise alter success ratios on individual attack trials (HPs).

[Panag]

Originally posted by Catt


Th experience level doesn't matter. Experience only adds HPs -- it does not change attack / defense values or otherwise alter success ratios on individual attack trials (HPs).

hi ,

, not exactly , with higher HP's a unit has a bigger change of getting a victory , and in the example of marines , it could be a large difference when using elite in stead of regular's , ....

have a nice day

[Catt]

Originally posted by panag


hi ,

, not exactly , with higher HP's a unit has a bigger change of getting a victory , and in the example of marines , it could be a large difference when using elite in stead of regular's , ....

have a nice day

Obviously with more HPs a unit is harder to kill. And I know that a veteran has more HPs than a regular, and an elite more than a veteran. But more HPs do not mean a higher chance of winning one individual trial -- i.e., one "combat die roll" that determines who loses a HP but not which unit ultimately dies. If you would simply read my post more carefully, and or go to the original post where I explained how I did the test, you would see that the results are based solely on HPs lost, not on whether one unit has a better chance to win or lose a full engagment (i.e. survive or die). The status (regular, veteran, elite) makes no difference in such a test.

If, OTOH, you're saying that an elite unit with one HP lost (so it has 4 HPs remaining) has a better chance of defeating a defender than a veteran unit of the same type that is completely healty (i.e., 4 HPs left), I would like to understand why you believe this is true, since I don't believe that this is correct.

Catt

[arkanjuca]

Originally posted by panag


hi ,

, not exactly , with higher HP's a unit has a bigger change of getting a victory , and in the example of marines , it could be a large difference when using elite in stead of regular's , ....

have a nice day

But he is not talking about victory, but single matchs of HP.

The stats say HP, not units...

So, in a match that a elite loses 3 hp and the regular loses 3, it will come 3,3 and not 1,0...

Understood???

[Panag]

Originally posted by arkanjuca


But he is not talking about victory, but single matchs of HP.

The stats say HP, not units...

So, in a match that a elite loses 3 hp and the regular loses 3, it will come 3,3 and not 1,0...

Understood???

hi ,

, there has to be a better way to calculate this , ...

have a nice day

[arkanjuca]

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[Cookie Monster]

Originally posted by panag


hi ,

it should go further then that , it should go way further , .....

have a nice day

Hi,

Explain what you mean by going way further. I thought that combat screen that appeared in SMAC/X was pretty cool. I am interested in hearing your thoughts.

thanks................

[Panag]

Originally posted by Haupt. Dietrich


Hi,

Explain what you mean by going way further. I thought that combat screen that appeared in SMAC/X was pretty cool. I am interested in hearing your thoughts.

thanks................

hi ,

not just a combination of both or a similar screen from SMAC , it should be something that "improves , that is written for this game , SMAC was good , but , something differnet then civ3 , something that shall let us control in real time , that is needed with "turnless-mode" , something tha has a lot of options , that the player could customise a bit" , .....idea's there are enough , but to get them implemeted in the game , ...., afterall , is it possible , can it be done , is there the will to do so , ....

maybe if some one from Firaxis would "guide" us a bit , ...

have a nice day

[Cookie Monster]

Hi panag,

Yes I agree that we need something that can be implemented in multiplayer mode, especially in "turnless" mode.

I think I understand what you mean by something different for Civ3. That window, if included in PtW, should be one tailor made for Civ3, not a SMAC ripoff.

[Catt]

Originally posted by panag


hi ,

, there has to be a better way to calculate this , ...

have a nice day

[Panag]

Originally posted by Catt

hi ,

there has to be a smarter way to calculate , ...

any idea's , ...

have a nice day