for all those who think the AI does NOT cheat..pls read

[notyoueither]

Do you have a save of just before they disappeared?

Was it very recent in your game? If so, look in your Autosave directory. I'd really like to see this.

[Theseus]

Redshirted escort: "NO WAY am I gonna go with them into Roman territory!! You know what's gonna happen!!

Chekhov: "We all gotta go somehow. Anyway, I've got a personal score to settle with Caesar... he killed my brother and his whole family in the razing of Riga. [Runs off]."

Sulu: "What got into Chekhov?"

Captain Cathy: "He's after nye because of his dead brother."

Sulu: "But he doesn't have a brother."

Captain Cathy: "Then it must be the M&Ms."

Redshirted escort: "Damn those Romans. I'd better get a Spear from the armory, just in case they have Tanks."

[notyoueither]

/Me doubles the guard.

[Redstar]

"Do you have a save of just before they disappeared?

Was it very recent in your game"

I have and at your prompting i have run through multiple outcomes.

First off i was dead wrong about there being 3 settlers to start with...i got a spy in earlier and found out that they had 9 settlers!
I had assumed there was 3 because in the other situation my late spy confirmed what i saw..3 settlers.

i have 3 settlers in my territory ..2 surrounded.
on the the turn i mentioned..it was really 8 settlers that ceased to be. These settlers were not replaced. I do not know why this happened. the only settler to live was 1 of them in my territory that was not surrounded.

Now, if i surround all 3 settlers ...all 9 settlers disappear.
if i leave all 3 settlers alone --only the other 6 settlers disappear.

Now if i let the original position go...8 settlers disappear and the AI then produces 2 more settlers to make the 3 i first saw.

If i let 3 settlers go...those 3 stay but another 2 settlers show up a couple turns later to make 5.

Its all very mysterious

I wish i could see what position the other settlers were in.


If ya still want to see the game i can post it...it would make for a very fun game to play in the modern ages for those who don't want to spend all the time getting to that point. Or for those who just want to have some fun!! =)

[Panag]

Originally posted by Redstar
"Do you have a save of just before they disappeared?

Was it very recent in your game"

I have and at your prompting i have run through multiple outcomes.

First off i was dead wrong about there being 3 settlers to start with...i got a spy in earlier and found out that they had 9 settlers!
I had assumed there was 3 because in the other situation my late spy confirmed what i saw..3 settlers.

i have 3 settlers in my territory ..2 surrounded.
on the the turn i mentioned..it was really 8 settlers that ceased to be. These settlers were not replaced. I do not know why this happened. the only settler to live was 1 of them in my territory that was not surrounded.

Now, if i surround all 3 settlers ...all 9 settlers disappear.
if i leave all 3 settlers alone --only the other 6 settlers disappear.

Now if i let the original position go...8 settlers disappear and the AI then produces 2 more settlers to make the 3 i first saw.

If i let 3 settlers go...those 3 stay but another 2 settlers show up a couple turns later to make 5.

Its all very mysterious

I wish i could see what position the other settlers were in.


If ya still want to see the game i can post it...it would make for a very fun game to play in the modern ages for those who don't want to spend all the time getting to that point. Or for those who just want to have some fun!! =)

hi ,

what level are you playing , .......did you play with the editor ,....

have a nice day

[Panag]

hi ,

Redstar , could you post a SAV(e) , ......that would help....

have a nice day

[notyoueither]

Redstar. I think it makes sense to me. The 6 outside your territory are gone, period. The 3 inside your land will disappear if the AI decides they are useless (you surround them). They have 2 more Settlers in the works and these appear regardless.

Or maybe I'm just insane.

[Panag]

Originally posted by notyoueither
Redstar. I think it makes sense to me. The 6 outside your territory are gone, period. The 3 inside your land will disappear if the AI decides they are useless (you surround them). They have 2 more Settlers in the works and these appear regardless.

Or maybe I'm just insane.

hi ,

how do you see these "things" , .............

insane , ....you ,..... , ....nope , ...
however you spend way to much time at some sites that deal with CIV , ..............

have a nice day / morning

[Redstar]

aye but if they decide to disband 6-9 settlers (depending on what i do)...then why the hay do they not stop production of the other settlers?

and if they feel no need for the other settlers why do they still feel a need for the settlers in my territory if they are free to be on about their business.?

i am playing mid level difficulty and not using the editor.

Still seems way too mysterious for me


i will see if i can figure out how to post a saved game.

edit: i give up trying to figure out how <

[notyoueither]

Near the bottom of the Post Reply window. Beneath Message Icon and Options. Attach file. There is a browse button for you to select the file to attach.

[Redstar]

finish the game and have a blast

thankyou kindly..here is this FUN game especially if ya let the enemy develop nukes )

vanishingsettlersfrmrs.zip


(in this one..there is a palace only a few turns away from being built...in a few years when it is built, income will actually fall. so careful

edit: btw: it is also saved a the point where you can see how the tech goes if ya trade to the greeks.

[notyoueither]

There is a Greek occupation of Syracuse! This cannot stand!

Destroy them! Kill the infidel!

That'll be 10,000 Hail Mars for you.

Aside from that it looks like fun.

[Redstar]

Aye..early on i was ambushed by 30 horse and 10 other units.
Since Syracuse was in my isolated outpost of 5 cities i could not get in reinforcements anytime soon.

Syracuse defenders were able to wipe out 16 horse before going down (4 defenders) and hence save the Roman civilization.

When I finally could think about retaking the city i had to sue for peace just before i reached the city. A new wave of greek modern knights had just appeared over the horizon.

So to this day i can't stand looking at that city in enemy hands either. = )