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  • Small Wonder suggestion: FBI

    For your consideration:

    A suggestion on how to cope with late game corruption.

    With the discovery of Communism, in addition to the Intelligence Agency, there would be another small wonder, the FBI. This small wonder would function exactly the same as the Forbidden Palace. This would solve the corruption problem in the late game sprawl of cities, but corruption would still remain a problem for farflung cities.

    I know it is probably too late to implement in a patch, but who knows? Anyway, what do you think?
    "In Italy for 30 years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed. But they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love. They had 500 years of democracy and peace. And what did that produce? The cuckoo clock."
    —Orson Welles as Harry Lime

  • #2
    I guess you mean like a secret police sort of thing?
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    • #3
      Exactly, we, that is the US in my case, have the FBI. The old Soviet Union had the KGB. I'm sure every nation has its own version of a national police force.
      "In Italy for 30 years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed. But they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love. They had 500 years of democracy and peace. And what did that produce? The cuckoo clock."
      —Orson Welles as Harry Lime

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      • #4
        I would rather have the KGB small wonder. Your secret police open fire on any demostrating mobs, thus, no civil disorder.

        Seriously, why is there no equal to "nerve stapling" in Civ3 where you can force the masses back to their jobs (the lazy jerks).

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        • #5
          FBI?? If they are as incompetent in the game as they were before 9/11 who needs them? But if the director is Gillian Anderson it might be worth a look.

          I always wanted a Broadway or Hollywood wonder for increased revenue and happiness.

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          • #6
            let's add MORE american wonders to the game... great.

            some of the wonders should be generalized... the "pentagon" should be a military academy of some sort, etc...

            *note i am american*
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            - Ender, from Ender's Game by Orson Scott Card

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            • #7
              Originally posted by UberKruX
              let's add MORE american wonders to the game... great.

              some of the wonders should be generalized... the "pentagon" should be a military academy of some sort, etc...

              *note i am american*
              I agree, you yankees always want to americanize everything, There are 16 civs in this game, and one big aspect is that they all have/ had their own culture. no need to give them all those american features now. I still feel akward when i make the babyloniers buil the manhattan project, or when the aztecs research advanced flight.

              I am still waiting to get Ronald McDonalds as a great leader
              ICH BIN EIN WARMONGER!!!

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              • #8
                Originally posted by V.O.C.'02
                I am still waiting to get Ronald McDonalds as a great leader
                , wasn't that, what this editor thing is for?

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                • #9
                  An FBI small wonder (not to mention a few more American examples) would be interesting.

                  But they should definitely be generalised. You could call the FBI, Secret Police. You could call the Pentagon Military Headquarters or something (not entirely sure here). The Manhattan Project could also use a more general name, and be made into a small wonder (which only allows YOU to build nukes, not EVERYONE), but I'm not sure of what it could be called.

                  But wonders like the Hoover Dam and SETI program are fine the way they are.
                  "Corporation, n, An ingenious device for obtaining individual profit without individual responsibility." -- Ambrose Bierce
                  "Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both." -- Benjamin Franklin
                  "Yes, we did produce a near-perfect republic. But will they keep it? Or will they, in the enjoyment of plenty, lose the memory of freedom? Material abundance without character is the path of destruction." -- Thomas Jefferson

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                  • #10
                    What ?!?

                    Give me Mossad (free spies), Arafat's Residence (free training for Bombers) wonders first.
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                    • #11
                      Shhhh, Solver. The city razing a la Jenin is already implemented, that's enuf.

                      On topic: It would make some sense, but I doubt that any new wonders or even buildings will be patched in. That's what the XP's are for from now on. Maybe somebody takes it as a suggestion for those, although the odds for this are marginal.

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                      • #12
                        I don't mind the wonders to be called the Manhattan Project and such, but what bothers me, is the movie when launching the space ship, on the side it says: USA
                        This space is empty... or is it?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by ADG
                          I don't mind the wonders to be called the Manhattan Project and such, but what bothers me, is the movie when launching the space ship, on the side it says: USA
                          The space race victory movie definitely needs to be more generalised. I mean, no writing on the ship, no crew faces (unless behind heavily tinted glass and unrecognisable), no talking from them, or mission control.
                          "Corporation, n, An ingenious device for obtaining individual profit without individual responsibility." -- Ambrose Bierce
                          "Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both." -- Benjamin Franklin
                          "Yes, we did produce a near-perfect republic. But will they keep it? Or will they, in the enjoyment of plenty, lose the memory of freedom? Material abundance without character is the path of destruction." -- Thomas Jefferson

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by LordAzreal
                            The space race victory movie definitely needs to be more generalised. I mean, no writing on the ship, no crew faces (unless behind heavily tinted glass and unrecognisable), no talking from them, or mission control.
                            Why no talking? Just imagine that it's being dubbed.

                            USA should definately not be on the ship. I didn't notice that.

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                            • #15
                              As far as I know, the FBI is not a secret police force.
                              Basically, it handles crimes (criminals) affecting more than a single state. The European counterpart would be Interpol.
                              The KGB otoh is the Sovjet equivalent of the CIA. They are already in the game.
                              As a wonder in the field of policing, I would however prefer Scotland Yard (the USA equivalent would be Pinkerton's).

                              Now, why the CIA would lead to a decrease of corruption, is beyond me ....
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